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Title: Resum? of George Bush (2004 Presidency? I don't think so!)
Post by: Footman on 2003-08-20, 03:19
George W. Bush
The White House, USA

Past Work Experience

I ran for U.S. Congress and lost.

I produced a Hollywood slasher B movie.

I bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas; the company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock.

I bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money.

With my father's help and name, I was elected Governor of Texas.



Accomplishments as Governor

I changed pollution laws in favor of the power and oil companies and made Texas the most polluted state in the Union.

I replaced Los Angeles with Houston as the most smog-ridden city in America.

I cut taxes and bankrupted Texas government to the tune of billions in borrowed money.

I set the record for the most executions by any Governor in American history.

I became U.S. President after losing the popular vote by over 500,000 votes with the help of major Enron money and my father's appointments to the Supreme Court.



Accomplishments as President

I attacked and overtook two countries.

I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S. Treasury.

I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S. history.

I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.

I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the U.S. stock market.

My record for environmental issues is the least of my concerns.

I am the first president in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record.

I set the the all-time record for most days on vacation in any one year period.

After taking-off the entire month of August, I then presided over the worst security failure in U.S. history.

I am supporting development of a "Tactical Bunker Buster" nuke, a WMD.

I am getting our troops killed, under the lie of Sadam's procurement of Yellow Cake Nuke WMD components, then blaming the lie on our British friends.

I set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips by a U.S. president.

In my first year in office over 2-million Americans lost their jobs and that trend continues every month.

I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.

I appointed more convicted criminals to administration than any president in U.S. history.

I set the record for least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television.

I signed more laws and executive orders effectively amending or ignoring the Constitution than any president in history.

I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was revealed.

I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history and refused to use national reserves as past presidents have done.

I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and support a cut in duty benefits for active duty troops and their families -- in war time.

I have set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously protest me in public venues (15 million people) shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind.

I've dissolved more international treaties than any president in U.S. history.

I've made my presidency the most secretive and unaccountable of any in U.S. history.

I'm proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in U.S. history.

My "poorest millionaire," Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her.

I am the first president in U.S. history to have almost all 50 states of the Union simultaneously suffer massive financial crisis.

I presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud of any market in any country in history.

I am the first president in U.S. history to order a pre-emptive attack and the military occupation of a sovereign nation, and I did so against the will of the United Nations and the world community.

I created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States.

I set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any president in history.

I am the first president in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission.

I am the first president in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the Elections Monitoring Board.

I removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in U.S. history.

I rendered the entire United Nations viewpoints irrelevant.

I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of Law.

I refused to allow inspectors access to U.S. "prisoners of war" (detainees) and thereby have refused to abide by the Geneva Convention.

I am the first president in history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. election).

I am the all-time U.S. and world record-holder for receiving the most corporate campaign donations.

My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of my best friends, (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation) presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy fraud in U.S. history. My political party used the Enron private jets and corporate attorneys to assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court during my election decision.

I have spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in U.S. history.

I garnered the most sympathy for the U.S. after the World Trade Center attacks and less than a year later made the U.S. the most resented country in the world, possibly the largest failure of diplomacy in World history.

I am actively working on a policy of "disengagement" creating the most hostile of Israel-Palestine relations in at least 30 years.

I am first president in history to have a majority of Europeans (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and security.

I am the first U.S. president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the U.S. than by their immediate neighbor, North Korea.

I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.

I set an all-time record for the number of administration appointees who violated U.S. law by not selling their huge personal investments in corporations bidding for U.S. contracts.

I failed to fulfill my pledge to capture Osama Bin Laden, dead or alive.

I failed to capture the anthrax killer who tried to murder the leaders of our country at the U.S. Capitol Building. Even after 18 months I have no leads and no credible suspects.

In the past 18 months following the World Trade Center attack I have successfully prevented any public investigation into the biggest security failure in the history of the United States.

I removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any president in U.S. history.

In a little over two years, I created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided since the Civil War.

I entered my office with the strongest economy in U.S. history and have turned every single economic category downward -- all in less than two years.



Records and References:

I have at least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine. My Texas driving record has been erased and is not available.

I was AWOL from the National Guard.

I refuse to take a drug test or even answer any questions about drug use.

All records of my tenure as Governor of Texas are now in my father's library, sealed, and unavailable for public view.

All records of SEC investigations into insider trading or bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.

All records or minutes from meetings that I, or my Vice-President, attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.


~ Please consider my experience when voting in 2004. ~
------------------------------------------------------------------------

What Bush has done. Why you shouldn't elect this man. Read it and weep.


Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: Footman on 2003-08-20, 03:28
http://www.academycomputerservice.com/econ...mics/charts.htm (http://www.academycomputerservice.com/economics/charts.htm)

I think this helps support my statement.


Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: Krazy-Killa on 2003-08-20, 03:28
Hahahahahahahaha, that's good.  Even though I didn't read it all, which I don't have time right now, but I'll read it probably tomorrow.   Funny shit so far. :)


Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: Footman on 2003-08-20, 03:31
It's funny because it's true.


Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: OoBeY on 2003-08-20, 03:45
I keep trying to read your post but there must be something wrong with my monitor. Your post appears to be leaning heavily towards the extreme left.

Although, to be fair, reading it did cause me to weep. Mainly because it loves to blame the current economic state entirely on the current president, when usually it is the result of PREVIOUS presidents... it completely lacks any statistics backing up such claims as "In a little over two years, I created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided since the Civil War.", "I am the first U.S. president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the U.S. than by their immediate neighbor, North Korea.", "I've made my presidency the most secretive and unaccountable of any in U.S. history." and "I am the first president in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record." unless you are counting "I have at least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine.", which IMHO doesn't cut the mustard...

Not to mention the fact you ignore he was not the first president to win due to the electoral college, nor do you probably understand the reason behind it's existence... Also you seem to be of the persuasion that the U.S. is required to ask permission from other countries before acting on other, different countries, which is quite frankly just absurd...

I fail to see how the opinions of Europeans on our president really matter, unless A) You think the Europeans, with a completely different culture know better than the people of our own country, or B) America became a part of Europe and no one told me...

You are also of the persuasion that RICH == EVIL!!!!!!!...

Also, from what I can gather from your post, you feel that US security previously was in a state of 'failure', but you object to any acts that might increase said security...

Your statement "I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history and refused to use national reserves as past presidents have done." indicates that you feel the national reserves should be tapped into when gasoline becomes 'expensive' (ignoring that British people routinely pay upwards of $5USD a gallon), I would suggest you read up on what it's really for...

I lack the time to really organize this but I just wanted to voice my opinion before Phoenix jumps in and says everything I actually want to say in an articulate manner.


Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: Footman on 2003-08-20, 03:48
I knew. I f*cking KNEW IT! You ALWAYS do this to me! Why do I even bother to post, you just twist it into another anti-footman cult gathering. God only knows who yer gonna send to kill me, just to shut me up! :angry:


Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: OoBeY on 2003-08-20, 03:49
Also, this isn't an argument against the case per se, but I would like to say this... DO NOT PLAGERIZE WITHOUT CREDITING AN ORIGINAL SOURCE http://michaelw.net/Articles/GeorgeBushsre...mebyKellyK.html (http://michaelw.net/Articles/GeorgeBushsresumebyKellyK.html)

Therefore, the arguments are no longer against 'you' but rather Kelly Kramer.

P.S. As for 'attacking' you, well you posted an extreme view in CONTROVERSY CORNER. If you can't stand the heat, don't start the freaking fire.


Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: Footman on 2003-08-20, 03:52
Try checking the graph in my second post. You did look at it, didn't you? I didn't think so. It has credible sources, but I bet you just took one look, overlooking the sources, and disregarded it as mindless dribble, since it came from me.


Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: OoBeY on 2003-08-20, 03:56
Oh I did look at your graph, and it does show what you are arguing, but the point is the economic state of a country is more the result of the actions of the PREVIOUS president as opposed to the current one.


Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: Footman on 2003-08-20, 04:00
I KNOW that, almost everyone knows that! I knew that before I even posted. This states what Bush, himself, has done.


Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: Twilight on 2003-08-20, 04:04
furry pr0n in da house

where da furry pr0n at yo


Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: Tabun on 2003-08-20, 04:08
Speaking as a European, I only wish to state that completely ignoring wordwide (and thus, partly European) agreements and opinions is in my book a bit beyond the question whether or not Europeans can judge what being an American is about, or whether or not  America is part of Europe (or should that be of the world? :))
- Anyway, Action will always be -Reaction I guess.


Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: Twilight on 2003-08-20, 04:11
tabun is the truth

still no furry pr0n

where it at foot my shizzle


Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: OoBeY on 2003-08-20, 04:11
I was more referring to things like:

I have set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously protest me in public venues (15 million people) shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind.

than anything else. My view on war is the same, but as for other international matters I of course agree with you. But only to the extent that we should consider the views of Europeans, not bow down to them.


Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: Twilight on 2003-08-20, 04:14
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Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: Angst on 2003-08-20, 04:40
.. much as I'd love to comment on this, I'm tired of getting branded as a nazi because I'm republican..


Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: Assamite on 2003-08-20, 04:41
Sure, blame CLINTON, even though the federal budget was in SURPLUS before the Bush tax cuts and military budget rises came along. Blame CLINTON, even as the economy was doing very well, with low unemployment and high profits, until tax cut time plus 9/11, when there was suddenly a RECESSION. And we're not out of it, yet!

Bush DID NOT inherit "Clinton's economic crisis", because there was never one to begin with! It was BUSH and Co. who revived Reaganomics, put the budget into record deficit (with the help of several invertebrate Dems), and thus, caused economic disaster.

Remember, kids - tax cuts and bloated military budgets don't mix!

And NO, this is NOT an extreme, left-wing radical view. MOST PEOPLE on this planet are more than happy to see Bush booted. The Tories, the centrists, libs and progs, and so forth.


Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: Lilazzkicker on 2003-08-20, 04:53
Foot, half the shit i see here.... well, pretty much looks like poo, as for the UN, I AM GLAD BUSH DID SOMETHING MOST CONTRIES ARE AFRAID TO DO, stop someone that should have been stopped a very long time ago!
As for the rest, it means nothing to me, Bush isnt the greatest president, nor the worst.


Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: Tekhead on 2003-08-20, 04:53
I'm not voting for Bush in 2004 (yes, I'll vote this time).

He really didn't do anything spectacular, yet he gets praise for it. With all the 'Bushisms' that he's let loose upon the public, I'd swear that man could've started a (real) war instead of merely intervening with other nations' wars.

Here's my impression of what he's done:\
 - Cleaned up dad's war

...that's about it I think.

We could've had Iraq as a powerful and rescourceful ally after we kicked Saddam out! We could've put in a Democratic government and helped renew their tattered, war-torn cities with millions of jobs for everyone! It was possible - the native residents of Iraq wanted change! However, what did we do? We entrenched our soldiers around the oil fields. We didn't even help out much with medical supplies for the bystanding Iraqi people who were unfortunate and were injured during the US invasion in their homeland. I think we really f :angry: ked ourselves with how we handled the aftermath of the invasion. Now the Iraqi people want us to GTFO. We had no good reason to go there in the first place (except to lead a crusade). Bad, bad capitalist decision! Now that people know the real reason the invasion happened in the first place, they protest the war and the American occupation! (well, except for our own US citizens! Where are they now? Where are the protests against being in Iraq, with signs and voices raised? Did they have any backbone at all, or was it just a big whim?)

IMO We need a president that, with a glance, says "I've got a pair, and I know how to use 'em", not someone with a hardon for just cash.

 :blink:  :D


Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: Phoenix on 2003-08-20, 04:59
This seems to be a common game lately.  Everyone think's it's just fine and dandy to bash Bush and blame all the world's ills on him.  Yet, I distinctly remember that bashing CLINTON was strictly prohibited for just the same reason.  I still find it incredulous that people would want to blame very complex situations with numerous factors on the actions and opinions of one man.  You would all do well to be less shortsighted on these matters.

I'm not going to sit here and defend Bush or attack Footman's long list of copied items regarding Bush.  Everyone already knows what I think and where I stand, there is no point in reiterating it yet once more.  What I will say is that if you hate Bush you'll believe all of this to be gospel truth.  If you support Bush you'll believe all of it to be blatant lies.  How much is which?  Well, I'm sure any intelligent person who can dig up facts on their own (remember to consider your sources now children) and draw their own conclusions will make that decision on their own as to what kind of man Bush is.  I'm sure an equally long list of facts, half-truths, accusations, whatever could be drawn up against anyone in a public office, or outside of it.  You're all old enough to use your brains.  I advise not drinking from a sweet cup without watching who poured it.  Just because something sounds good to you and matches your opinion does not necessarily validate it.  Question everything, and use your mind for what it was made for.

Footman:  The only thing I can say to you is if you can't stand the heat don't start fires.  You know this would ignite controversy the moment you posted it.  If you didn't want to start an argument then I'd advise you to just think things through a little more before making a post.  You can't expect everyone to just smile and nod and agree with you here.  This board has many differing opinions when it comes to everything from religion to politics to sexual preferences.  I'll avoid commenting on Twilight's above images, even if G rated.  All I'd suggest is if you're going to fly off the handle when someone criticizes your opinion or contests information that you post then you'd do well to not place it here.  Nobody has personally attacked YOU here, just what you're saying.  This isn't "Controversy Corner" for nothing.  If you want the "Get-Along Gang" you're in the wrong place.

Debate on, people.  I'm not locking this one unless it gets uglier than Chelsy. :thud:


Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: Assamite on 2003-08-20, 05:04
Vote Kucinich. ;)

http://www.kucinich.us (http://www.kucinich.us)

Or, if you're just pragmatic, vote Kerry or Dean or something. But NOT Lieberman. But I'm sure you guys knew that already.


Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: Phoenix on 2003-08-20, 05:19


Nah, vote Cthulhu! (http://www.cthulhu.org)  :D


Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: Footman on 2003-08-20, 05:25
Vote Phoenix, he'd make da best president evar!!! lololol!!!!!1111oneonetwo

Twi: This topic has nothing to do with that shit, stop it.


Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: Assamite on 2003-08-20, 07:36
Also, Oobey, I don't think Footman subscribes to the "Rich = BAD" train of thought. I think it's the "Greedy enough to take over the government and smother peoples' lives here and abroad = FSCKING OBVIOUSLY WRONG" train of thought.

A bunch of people are rich - I don't think Footman has any beef with them, so long as they don't buy out the government and screw over the people by extension.


Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: dev/null on 2003-08-20, 08:06
Quote from: Phoenix
Nah, vote Cthulhu! (http://www.cthulhu.org)  :D
A candidate I purposed quite some time ago  ;)


Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: Angst on 2003-08-20, 20:51
:blink: now there's a thought, if cthulhu was in office, everone would be equally screwed, no more bitching! :D


Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: OoBeY on 2003-08-21, 00:13
Quote from: Assamite
Also, Oobey, I don't think Footman subscribes to the "Rich = BAD" train of thought. I think it's the "Greedy enough to take over the government and smother peoples' lives here and abroad = FSCKING OBVIOUSLY WRONG" train of thought.

A bunch of people are rich - I don't think Footman has any beef with them, so long as they don't buy out the government and screw over the people by extension.
A) As I said earlier, unless foot comes out and says it, I was in fact wrong and am not attacking him, but rather the person who actually wrote that, and

B) I would like to point out:

I'm proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in U.S. history.

My "poorest millionaire," Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her.

...which are in a collection of 'facts' designed to make Bush look bad.


Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: games keeper on 2003-08-21, 11:16
Quote
Here's my impression of what he's done:\
- Cleaned up dad's war
have you noticed that on all of his interviews hes is wearing a military suit or there is atleast a lot of military materials standing behind him.

even Hitler didnt do such thing

 

anyway i have to say that although clinton was a pussy like many of you say ,
he WAS a GOOD president . ok he didn't do to much wars and stuff. but look at the economie . he could let it rise trough the roof. if you would left him on top for 12 more years you could have been 1 of the richest lands in the world .


and OOBEY

Quote
I fail to see how the opinions of Europeans on our president really matter, unless A) You think the Europeans, with a completely different culture know better than the people of our own country, or B) America became a part of Europe and no one told me...

1)wolr democratie is a woderfull thing  ;)
2)most europeans  are smarter then americans. (till now every guy i know that went to america says the same "I've seen a lot o people there but not 1 smart aerican. I know they exist but there hard to find " I even start to think that the smartest  americans there are people that move to america and get an american passport . :omfg:
and if we dont may bring in anything against the war then YOU may not bring anything in against Korea making bombs .





Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: Angst on 2003-08-21, 18:38
okay, I think I need to set this straight before it pisses me off any more..

Quote
have you noticed that on all of his interviews hes is wearing a military suit or there is atleast a lot of military materials standing behind him.

even Hitler didnt do such thing
Hitler was rarely seen WITHOUT a military entourage, and a good 90% of Hitler's public speeches were while he was wearing a dress uniform. That point smells of horse manure.
http://www.viaggio-in-germania.de/hitler.jpg (http://www.viaggio-in-germania.de/hitler.jpg)
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http://www-cgsc.army.mil/milrev/spanish/Se.../hitler%202.jpg (http://www-cgsc.army.mil/milrev/spanish/SepOCt02/graphics/hitler%202.jpg)

And as for Clinton's boosting of the economy, #1 the president doesn't control the stock market. #2 the stock market "boom" during the Clinton administration was due to massive amounts of budget fudging. Enron wasn't alone in this, and the Clinton years were those during which Enron made the greatest profits. Even Allen Greenspan noted that something didn't seem right with it. As for the stock "crash" and 9/11.. The crash occurred AFTER 9/11 and was due, in part to buisness slowing down as everyone drooled over the television. It's like a traffic jam because some bimbo in a minivan is rubbernecking at an accident and taking up two lanes of traffic doing it. On TOP of that, many buisnesses were suddenly held accountable for their records and the audits caused by the Enron scandal made it obvious that THERE WAS NO STOCK BOOM IN THE FIRST PLACE because the money that was being traded DIDN'T EXIST As for 9/11.. Again, the NSA, FBI, CIA and other organizations involved with the policing and protection of the United States receive warnings like that every day. There was no solid indication that it was going to happen. And on TOP of that, government organizations are NOT ALLOWED TO USE RACIAL PROFILING. So they aren't even allowed to take Jihad Joe off a plane and question him on the basis of his race or physical appearance. And if they behave until pulling out the box cutters (which were legal to carry on a plane until 9/11 due to the AIRLINE'S OWN REGULATIONS there's nothing anyone can officially do about it. As for Bush removing Checks and Balances, you said it yourself, you want a president who's got a pair. And in pulling in the reigns of power instead of simply being a figurehead, that's what he's doing.

Moving on to the war in Iraq. I've stated before, and I'll state again, that this isn't simply "finishing what daddy started," Iraq DOES have weapons of mass destruction, and the only reason they haven't shown the media is because if they show you who found them and how, we'll blow our cover. You remember when Geraldo got booted out because he pulled out a map and on international television said "we are here" during troop movements right? It's just that lack of foresight that causes problems. Most of the work in Iraq involves espionage because after the years spent under Saddam's bloody dictatorship nobody wants to risk accidentally letting one of Saddam's killers know that they don't agree with him.

Yes, it was supposed to be a quick war, nobody new exactly how terrified of Saddam the local population was.

Yes, US troops are stationed around oil fields. If you've got the gall to complain about the previous oil crisis, shut up now. And remember when Iraqui troops pulled out of Kuwait? Same deal, burning oil is hazardous in that not only is it explosive, the clouds of smoke are downright lethal.

Yes, we ARE trying to establish a government, but keep in mind that you cannot go from a dictatorship to a democracy overnight. You need to earn the trust of the people, you need to establish a form of mass communication, which we can NOT do until power, phone, water and cable lines are all repaired (most of which were cut by Saddam's loyalists) and you need to establish a system in which to CREATE a new government. It takes people whom the general public is willing to trust, and most Iraqui's are outright terrified of government officials, that just happens to be Huissein's legacy.

As for bombs, I'll admit it is difficult to justify. We don't want any more nukes on this planet, and we still have them. Why? so we can respond to a nuclear, or equivalent threat. What does Korea need nukes for? To protect themselves from the North Koreans? from China? The US already has troops stationed there just-in-case anything like that happens. Frankly, the US has been running around doing errands for the UN for so long it's not even funny. Like it or not, the United States has been the world's police force for many years. And yes, many European and other countries have helped, but we have been the mainstay. I will not say "war is peace" so quit the Big Brother @#$% now. I WILL state that when politics fails, as the UN has done, then something needs to happen.

This is war people, there's nothing nice about it, so take the complaints about not playing nice and shove it. Machiavelli was right, if you win, you do it hard, fast, and quiet. Playing nice gets you dead.

And omfg people, did you really expect 9/11 to NOT cause a recession?! They blew up the @#$%ing WORLD TRADE CENTER. Practically the freaking headquarters of this nation's economy.

And Footman, this isn't bashing you personally, but you DID post a list of "transgressions" that came from a source that's almost as liberal as Hitler was fascist and your most impressive supporting statistics were PROJECTIONS.

As good 'ol Sam Clemens said so long ago, there are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.

Just keep in mind that you can make numbers say anything, and there are two sides to any argument. I'm not fully supporting Bush, but I WILL state that all of the bashing is ridiculous. If you think you could have done a better job, then you should try working on the solution, not pissing up a storm about what you think the problem is.


Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: games keeper on 2003-08-21, 20:15
eehm dont wanna say anything but . iraq aint russia or brazil or any other big land. they should already have found the bombs .

Ithink there playing a doom3 mod over there

http://www.planetdoom.com/doom3/articles/d3mods.shtml (http://www.planetdoom.com/doom3/articles/d3mods.shtml)

Weapons of Mass Destruction Mod
You and your team must infiltrate and search the other teams base for the Weapons of Mass Destruction that they have hidden there. These weapons that you find must then either destroy or return to your own base to use against your opponent. The weapons are so well hidden that you may actually never find them. It may seem like they don't even exist and maybe they don't! You can pick up power up items in your search that allow you more time to look for them.



Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: Angst on 2003-08-21, 22:53
Again, I say they most likely HAVE found them, but can't risk telling the slack-wit's in the media. But I could be wrong, we'll have to wait and see.

If your entire operation requires secrecy, you can't go blabbing anything. Why don't people understand this?


Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: games keeper on 2003-08-22, 10:20
if it was a secret operation they also shouldn't have told that they where searching for nukes.


Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: Atom235 on 2003-08-22, 19:59
Bush is a head of Republican politics and USA, so he can't avoid being bashed by outside world.

Personally I like the list Footman wrote (plagiation or not, that's irrelevant right now), cause it's true .  :)

Also, it's strange how  Reps forget their old friends when they can't benefit from them.

http://images.embarrassing.net/Rumsfeld-vs-Saddam.jpg (http://images.embarrassing.net/Rumsfeld-vs-Saddam.jpg)

There has been WMDs in Iraq (not in such great quantities or qualities as *krhm* SOME *krhm* politicians have claimed). Now they are in Syria, or they have been destroyed.

This cannot be confirmed 100 %, cause US doesn't want UN weapon inspectors to search the country. US troops, however, will inevitably find WMDs in Iraq, cause they can plant the evidence there themselves :) .

But.. Saddam is gone now. And nobody will miss him or his brutal regime.










 











Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: Lilazzkicker on 2003-08-22, 21:26
Saddam in exile doesnt mean he is gone for good.

He would be better off dead.


Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: Phoenix on 2003-08-23, 03:12
To the patient hunter falls the prey. :evil:


Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: uBeR on 2003-08-25, 20:03
im confused on a few of those points and that list of top 11 things or something? how did bush cause the blackout? so maybe we should call the great depression: The Great Wilson Depression???
Just because something major event occurred during a president's term in office by no means is a direct result of their policies. I dont hear you saying the "Great Clinton 9/11" so blaming things such as the blackout on bush? sounds lame to me

ALso this concept that the president has a direct effect on the economy? I dont know where you took economics classes but Alan Greenspan has more control over the economy then the president does...also, perhaps the economy looks so bleak because after "Great Clinton 9/11" he handed off an economic situation that was on its way down anyways....or even the fact that the economy has been known to "cycle" through highs and lows through out history? you cant have the economy on the rise forever, everything has a balance...

what i find the funniest is all of the hypocritical points in this article:
1. your disgusted with the corporate corruption and then your complaining about the stock market going down? do you realize what the stock market is for and who it supports? yes those same corporations. if you truly think they are corrupt, then should you be happy that the stock market(essential every corporations backbone) is in a slump?

2. You complain about the "larget deficit in history" and "looting the U.S. Treasury". yet then you complain about the lack of federal funding for unemployed and other great social programs. Not sure, but last I checked these programs all cost money which would increase federal spending?

I cant figure out what you want the president to do? maybe its just me, but you want the best of all worlds...you cant have a great stock market and no corporations, you cant have all these federal funded programs without spending more money....

Lastly, What in the hell made you think its bush's fault for the so called energy crises?

if your talking about the electricity, it has nothing to do with bush....the reason there is a shortage of electricity in places like california is because they are retarded...im sorry for the childish name calling but thats the simple fact.....california has the strictest set of ecological laws in the US, which simply makes it way too expensive for power companies to build new power plants...if you research this, you'll find out california has had power issues long before bush and actually dates back to the 80's....if there truly were a power crises, then why doesnt the midwest have problems with power shortages? and this past weekend's glitch has nothing to do with a shortage

the reason gas prices are so high is because fools like you and me are demanding more, while the number of refineries in the US keep diminishing. simple matter of supply and demand. If the gas is too expensive then dont buy it, use your electric car or your fuel cell car. The national reservers are there in case there really was an oil crises, so we could still run our military for some period of time as part of the national defense....so they werent installed as some great federal program to keep cheap asses on the road, sorry....

and for your information i do work for a oil company, you may call me biased, but i'll know your just ignorant of the facts because i think i have a bit more information on the gasoline prices...

oh btw a few key thoughts about gasoline:
1. prices have gone up because the EPA makes oil refineries jump through a bunch of hoops every year. if you want more info research MTBE...great little process which those brainy californians came up with...it was an additive in gasoline which supposedly helped burn gasoline in cars better...so the EPA made every refinery add MTBE's to the gasoline(which costs about 10 mil per refinery) to only find out a few months later, oh yea MTBE gets into the water table and causes birth defects in babies...way to go EPA, industry is not the only ones to mess up, eco-geeks do their share too
2. The last refinery built in the US was in the late 70's, why havent more been built, espeically with how much gasoline costs? because it would be way too expensive to build to meet the EPA regulation standards today.
3. Look to have gasoline prices to keep going up, because EPA has issued more regulations by the year 2008, which is costing a fortune to make up...this means more smaller refineries are closing and the larger ones are going to increase prices because of costs of these projects....

Lastly:
before you start pissing and moaning about gasoline prices, have you ever taken a few minutes to figure out the costs of some comon household items at a per gallon price? i think this will put the costs way more into perspective. Things to look at are milk, bottled water, nyquil, soup, butter, orange juice....you will be hard pressed to find anything cheaper then gasoline on a per gallon basis...so before you piss and moan about gasoline get a grip on reality and start pissing and moaning about


Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: Angst on 2003-08-25, 21:13
I like this uber person :D


Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: Footman on 2003-08-31, 06:59
OoB: Assamite was correct, I DONOT think Rich == EVIL. I believe that doing stupid things to becomes rich or make poor use of money == evil.


Title: Re: Resum? of George Bush
Post by: Lilazzkicker on 2003-09-01, 16:37
WE NEED A NEW TOPIC PLEASE!