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Title: Drunken Filipino Kills Wife
Post by: ConfusedUs on 2004-07-19, 16:25
http://channels.netscape.com/ns/news/story...0&w=RTR&coview= (http://channels.netscape.com/ns/news/story.jsp?id=2004071823140002571383&dt=20040718231400&w=RTR&coview=)

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MANILA, July 19 (Reuters) - A drunken Filipino farmer nailed his wife's mouth shut and beat her to death in front of their children, then prepared breakfast for her the next day without realising he had killed her, police said on Monday.

Alcohol is bad, mmkay? He must've been pretty hammered to do that. =(


Title: Re: Drunken Filipino Kills Wife
Post by: dna on 2004-07-19, 16:52
Must've been lots of love in that house to begin with...


Title: Re: Drunken Filipino Kills Wife
Post by: Woodsman on 2004-07-19, 17:11
It wasnt the booze. ive been drunk plenty of times without doing that.


Title: Re: Drunken Filipino Kills Wife
Post by: Tabun on 2004-07-19, 17:15
Alcohol my ass - he must have been a downright moron, asshole and psycho to have cooked that one up, no matter how much he drank.


Title: Re: Drunken Filipino Kills Wife
Post by: games keeper on 2004-07-19, 18:20
best 1 I have ever heard was a guy who married a girl , took a knife ,  cut of his penis , said to his wife "now you will always know I never go with sombody else " and runs away .

filipinos are weird man .


Title: Re: Drunken Filipino Kills Wife
Post by: McDeth on 2004-07-19, 18:42
"Stereotype" Games Keeper: Do you know what that word means? If not look it up, and you will understand why I am telling you to go screw yourself.

Con: Come on! Whatever, blaming it on alcohol is like blaming the wound of a gunshot victim on the gun.



Title: Re: Drunken Filipino Kills Wife
Post by: Tabun on 2004-07-19, 19:40
Kind of a lopsided comparison, since most guns weren't exactly designed and developed to empty clips on old cars :p


Title: Re: Drunken Filipino Kills Wife
Post by: games keeper on 2004-07-19, 23:14
daman , im not even gonna react on you .

and it couldnt have been the alcohol alone , it could have helped a little like 1% or something but still , you have to be pretty drunk till you reach the point where you dont know what you do or did .
you can so drunk that you cant walk anymore ( or atleast not like you use to walk ) , you can get drunk that you throw up all over the place , you can get drunk so that you  get a agressive (kind of  people that shouldnt drink ) , but you can not drink and forgot what you did when you where drunk .


Title: Re: Drunken Filipino Kills Wife
Post by: dna on 2004-07-20, 00:46
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but you can not drink and forgot what you did when you where drunk .
You haven't been drunk enough then. :p
Seriously though, drink might have let it out, but I'd bet it was there all along.


Title: Re: Drunken Filipino Kills Wife
Post by: ConfusedUs on 2004-07-20, 00:57
Quote from: dna
You haven't been drunk enough then. :p
Seriously though, drink might have let it out, but I'd bet it was there all along.
dna's pretty much right, in both cases

Alcohol is one hell of a dis-inhibitor. It's a lot harder not to act on impulses when you're drunk.

I hear so many stories that start off with "So I was drunk and..."

Usually the story ends up with "So that's how I ended up letting the entire football team gangbang me in my mother's bed while my 6 year old brother watched.", or something just as strange.


Title: Re: Drunken Filipino Kills Wife
Post by: Tabun on 2004-07-20, 01:11
Nah. Being really drunk makes it harder to resist tempations and urges. Stabbing someone with a screwdriver, for example, is not one of urges I file under 'Normal Human Impulse'. Nor rape, nor jumping off buildings etc. Plus, anyone who gets extremely drunk for whatever reason (aside from spiked drinks) is a walking tribute to weakness in my eyes, anyway.

Which is not to say I've never been _REALLY_ drunk, myself. Gotta have been there to know what one is talking about - very true, this is. I can't recall stabbing people, but there were plenty of awful folks and potential weapons etc around. Including nails, and a hammer. I think everybody survived the night pretty much without getting nails anywhere in their bodies.


Title: Re: Drunken Filipino Kills Wife
Post by: Phoenix on 2004-07-20, 02:16
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Being really drunk makes it harder to resist tempations and urges.

That's why I discourage drunkenness.  Temptation is the devil's game.

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Stabbing someone with a screwdriver, for example, is not one of urges I file under 'Normal Human Impulse'.

I would.  Agression is a normal instinct to any creature that feels threatened or stressed, and humans tend to be the most stressed-out creatures on this planet.

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Plus, anyone who gets extremely drunk for whatever reason (aside from spiked drinks) is a walking tribute to weakness in my eyes, anyway.

That is another reason why I discourage drunkenness.  A person who is drunk is easy prey for unscrupulous companions.  As for Mr. Nailman, I would agree that he already had some serious problems and the alcohol just opened the door and let the devil in.


Title: Re: Drunken Filipino Kills Wife
Post by: McDeth on 2004-07-20, 08:31
Quote from: Tabun
Kind of a lopsided comparison, since most guns weren't exactly designed and developed to empty clips on old cars :p
I think it is a perfect comparison actually.  The gun does not kill, the person using the gun does.  Same with alcohol. The man drank, he made a choice. It is a risky business being drunk.

GK: I don't think you got the point. You made a very inappropriate stereotype that Filipinos are weird. This is absolutely not true. Had you "reacted" to me, you have looked like a bigger fool, so good thing you didn't. :offtopic:     :offtopic:


Title: Re: Drunken Filipino Kills Wife
Post by: Woodsman on 2004-07-20, 16:30
Booze alone is not enough to produce that kind of behavior by itself. I have been VERY drunk a few times and i never even thought of nailing someones mouth shut and stabbing them. The man in question proubly had a history of wife beating and violence in general.

McDeth: im sure the  filipino anti defamation league is very greatful that you spoke out on thier behalf but i dont see the need for a  call to the ACLU because Gameskeeper said "filipinos are wierd" . When he goes on a long rant about how pacific islanders are threatening white purity and the over all well being of western civilization then it will be time for concern. Jesus soon we wont even be able to make irish jokes.


Title: Re: Drunken Filipino Kills Wife
Post by: dna on 2004-07-20, 17:04
Quote from: Woodsman
Booze alone is not enough to produce that kind of behavior by itself. I have been VERY drunk a few times and i never even thought of nailing someones mouth shut and stabbing them.
I'm usually pretty sober when I think those kinds of thoughts.


Title: Re: Drunken Filipino Kills Wife
Post by: McDeth on 2004-07-20, 21:33
Quote from: Woodsman


McDeth: im sure the  filipino anti defamation league is very greatful that you spoke out on thier behalf but i dont see the need for a  call to the ACLU because Gameskeeper said "filipinos are wierd" . When he goes on a long rant about how pacific islanders are threatening white purity and the over all well being of western civilization then it will be time for concern. Jesus soon we wont even be able to make irish jokes.
Come come. That comment was just ridiculously ignorant and I felt it had to be addressed. The difference between that and a joke was it was not meant to be funny, or if it was, it simply wasn't. *Shrugs* but I suppose that I better stop arguing before I get kicked because I suppose the concensus around here is to be a Jesus loving racists.


Title: Re: Drunken Filipino Kills Wife
Post by: Phoenix on 2004-07-20, 21:48
Making an off-color remark does not automatically make someone a racist.  Besides, every human has racist tendencies to some degree.  True equality is an unattainable myth because there will always be cultural differences between different races based on geography, ethnic history, and lineage.  All that matters is how you treat the person at the end of the day.  If you can get along with someone despite their differences you are not a racist.  Really, this is all much ado about nothing.  People are too easily offended these days, and really should grow some thicker skin.


Title: Re: Drunken Filipino Kills Wife
Post by: dna on 2004-07-20, 22:16
Well, I for one am fervently hoping that GK can find the courage and conviction to cast off the demons of ignorence and have his eyes opened to the true state of the world.
We all need to take a stand!


Title: Re: Drunken Filipino Kills Wife
Post by: games keeper on 2004-07-20, 22:27
completely agree with pho .

I have no problem with any kind of religion or people , ass long as they dont live of my back .
note that in the koran stants that you can steal from any none moslim .
making him live of my back .

for the rest saying some people is weird is not racism .

I haven't said that you should kill all the fillipinos or whatever kind of people because are bringing humanity to a discrase or whatever , its just that they do weird things .

and DNA , I'm not gonna get into that 1 either .
I like to live in my fantasy so that I don't have to watch how people or bringing themself to the apokalps


Title: Re: Drunken Filipino Kills Wife
Post by: McDeth on 2004-07-21, 07:27
A comment like that is ignorant and that what irritated me the most. A comment such as that one has no place in a discussion like this, but forgive me for being so "thin skinned".


Title: Re: Drunken Filipino Kills Wife
Post by: Woodsman on 2004-07-21, 14:39
it was no more ignorant than " Jesus loving racists"


Title: Re: Drunken Filipino Kills Wife
Post by: McDeth on 2004-07-21, 18:58
Perhaps you did not understand the satire....

People get *REALLY* upset if I talk about their messiah around here, but when someone makes such an ignorant comment like "Filipinos are wierd" no one gets reprieved. I'm not much into religion, but I was under the impression that one of Christ's teachings was tolerance, yes? So please, don't go down that road with me.


Title: Re: Drunken Filipino Kills Wife
Post by: Phoenix on 2004-07-22, 05:33
Jesus said that if a man strike you on the cheek, turn to him also the other cheek.  Whether it be words or a hand doing the striking, I think more people should follow that example.  Not all things said that may offend are said in anger or with that intention.


Title: Re: Drunken Filipino Kills Wife
Post by: Lilazzkicker on 2004-07-22, 18:07
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but you can not drink and forgot what you did when you where drunk .

This is where I disagree with you...you can drink an hit a point where you DONT remember what happened, or what you did....been there done that too many times to know this fact.


(Lets get back on topic, less I have to start nixing posts)


Title: Re: Drunken Filipino Kills Wife
Post by: games keeper on 2004-07-22, 19:04
man what the hell , I only can get that drunk that I can't walk anymore , that I have to crawl