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General Discussion => Off-Topic => Topic started by: ReBoOt on 2005-01-11, 22:17



Title: Hurricane (wtf happend to the weather?)
Post by: ReBoOt on 2005-01-11, 22:17
A really nasty hurricane hitted the west part of sweden, which i live in it knocked out my phone line, power and all that shit on top of that it took a part of the roof of our garage.. simply the last days has been a hell for me. and it's supposed to be winter now..but it's more like spring. this is sure som weird shit!


Title: Re: Hurricane
Post by: Assamite on 2005-01-11, 22:52
I don't think hurricaines are possible in arctic regions.


Title: Re: Hurricane
Post by: Phoenix on 2005-01-12, 01:58
What, you mean to tell me you didn't watch The Day After Tomorrow?  What kind of Lib are you?  :D

Seriously though, any kind of weather is possible anywhere in the world.  The earth is a dynamic system, and climate change and freak weather do happen.  It's not just Sweden, either.  You have tsunamis following the earthquake, California is getting soaked, it's going to be as warm as 70f (21.1c) here in Ohio tomorrow, when it should be much, much colder.  The sun is no longer following the "expected" sunspot cycle, it's been extremely active the last decade especially, there's been other "fun" stuff going on in the solar system, like the dust storms on Mars, etc...  It's all connected.  The sun is more active, the earth's weather gets more chaotic, fairly simple stuff there.

Of course, there are two alternate explanations commonly floated about.  One is that man somehow is causing climate change through global warming, the other is that all of this is the wrath of God, or some kind of sign.  Personally I think it's a mix of all these things, but the sun is the most prevalent player in this drama as far as I'm concerned.


Title: Re: Hurricane
Post by: ReBoOt on 2005-01-12, 02:46
Assaamite: only the nothern part of sweden lays in the artic circle, sweden might look small but it really isnt :P we do have hurricanes here but not very often..the last time we had a hurricane like this was in 1969. so i really shouldnt complain but when it hits it hits bad :/ usually we have alot of storms in autum but NEVER during winter....
I think the sun is responsible for alot of this but i also think the "greenhose" effect do have it's impacts on our climate. But no one can say for sure but the fact is there is something weird about the weather that can't be denied .


Title: Re: Hurricane
Post by: shambler on 2005-01-12, 11:34
I believe that this kind of thing happens every so often to the world.

Humanity doesn't help mind.

there is also a lot of strange shit happening here in the UK at the moment too, but it's not the weather.

maybe the poles are about to flip over again.

we pagans have things to do that we cannot put off any longer (trying to sound misterious and important!)



Title: Re: Hurricane
Post by: games keeper on 2005-01-13, 22:58
the weather here rised to 14 degrees celcius that day  wich is extremely hot this time of the year


Title: Re: Hurricane
Post by: Phoenix on 2005-01-14, 01:30
Flooding around the river here, and what's this I hear about Venice having beached gondolas?


Title: Re: Hurricane
Post by: Woolie Wool on 2005-01-14, 01:51
There was a huge ice storm in the deep South, where even snow flurries are a rare occurrence.


Title: Re: Hurricane
Post by: McDeth on 2005-01-14, 08:03
Quote from: Phoenix

Of course, there are two alternate explanations commonly floated about.  One is that man somehow is causing climate change through global warming, the other is that all of this is the wrath of God, or some kind of sign.  Personally I think it's a mix of all these things, but the sun is the most prevalent player in this drama as far as I'm concerned.
I'm going to say act of man since desimating Sweden with a hurricane wouldn't be very Christian of God.


Title: Re: Hurricane
Post by: Phoenix on 2005-01-14, 11:01
Well I don't know, Sodom and Gammorah took it on the chin.  Besides, if God is doing anything here it would be in the "warning" phase.  Warnings are an act of mercy, giving people a chance to pay attention and repent of sin and seek Him instead.  Judgement and wrath would be unmistakable, and a hundredfold more destructive at least.  Besides, I think God can establish his own motives without needing any of us to second guess them.


Title: Re: Hurricane
Post by: Footman on 2005-01-14, 15:45
It's all going wacky.
Pennsylvania's usually the victim of a lot of ice storms this time of the year. So far we've been nothing but the wet stuff with temperatures in the 50s and 60sF.


Title: Re: Hurricane
Post by: Tabun on 2005-01-14, 17:27
I'll represent the worlds Agnostics by saying things don't have to be warnings, punishment or retaliative just because they're bad.


Title: Re: Hurricane
Post by: shambler on 2005-01-14, 19:23
maybe the earth wants a clean slate.


Title: Re: Hurricane
Post by: Phoenix on 2005-01-14, 20:06
Quote from: Tabun
I'll represent the worlds Agnostics by saying things don't have to be warnings, punishment or retaliative just because they're bad.
*nods in agreement*
Sometimes a rock is just a rock.


Title: Re: Hurricane
Post by: McDeth on 2005-01-14, 20:56
Quote from: Phoenix
Well I don't know, Sodom and Gammorah took it on the chin.  Besides, if God is doing anything here it would be in the "warning" phase.  Warnings are an act of mercy, giving people a chance to pay attention and repent of sin and seek Him instead.  Judgement and wrath would be unmistakable, and a hundredfold more destructive at least.  Besides, I think God can establish his own motives without needing any of us to second guess them.
Actually, I do second guess him.  Everyday.

And Tab my boy, the only reason I brought it up was because "devine wraith" was put out as an arguement for Soddom and Gom...I mean...Sweden's current plight...


Title: Re: Hurricane
Post by: Woolie Wool on 2005-01-14, 21:30
According to the Bible, Moses argued with God and won.

But anyway, this is just a bunch of freak weather. Don't worry about it. Unless you live in southern California.;)


Title: Re: Hurricane
Post by: Phoenix on 2005-01-15, 05:27
Quote from: Woolie Wool
According to the Bible, Moses argued with God and won.
:offtopic:  Got chapter and verse to back that up? :offtopic:

McDeth:  I don't remember anyone in this thread stating that God was judging Sweden.


Title: Re: Hurricane
Post by: McDeth on 2005-01-15, 10:02
Quote from: Phoenix
Of course, there are two alternate explanations commonly floated about.  One is that man somehow is causing climate change through global warming, the other is that all of this is the wrath of God, or some kind of sign.  Personally I think it's a mix of all these things, but the sun is the most prevalent player in this drama as far as I'm concerned.
Of course, it could be a case of God just *felt* like wasting Sweden in a hurricane. So yea, if that was argued, then I could see that...


Title: Re: Hurricane
Post by: ReBoOt on 2005-01-15, 23:37
Lol well sweden is a Godforsaken Land! :P


Title: Re: Hurricane
Post by: McDeth on 2005-01-15, 23:43
Quote from: ReBoOt
Lol well sweden is a Godforsaken Land! :P
LOL, that's what my grandfather always told me.