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Title: Bill Cosby is awesome
Post by: ConfusedUs on 2004-07-02, 04:35
http://apnews.excite.com/article/20040702/.../D83IBO6O0.html (http://apnews.excite.com/article/20040702/D83IBO6O0.html)

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CHICAGO (AP) - Bill Cosby went off on another tirade against the black community Thursday, telling a room full of activists that black children are running around not knowing how to read or write and "going nowhere."

You go Bill!


Title: Re: Bill Cosby is awesome
Post by: Woodsman on 2004-07-02, 05:18
yeah i read about this awhile back. Bill is taking alot of heat for saying ebonics makes black people sound like retards.


Title: Re: Bill Cosby is awesome
Post by: Footman on 2004-07-02, 06:56
Quote from: Woodsman
Bill is taking alot of heat for saying ebonics makes black people sound like retards.
And for the most part, I agree with him.


Title: Re: Bill Cosby is awesome
Post by: Phoenix on 2004-07-02, 08:37
He's right, and it needs to be said.


Title: Re: Bill Cosby is awesome
Post by: Assamite on 2004-07-07, 16:00
Not surprisingly, every prominent white conservative has celebrated his remarks, and every prominent black liberal has blasted them.

That said, it was probably based more on stereotypes than actual substance. Stereotypes created by Chris Rock, Chappelle, among others. But he IS correct that the black underclass (with special scrutiny on the DC black community that keeps demanding The Man solve every one of their school security problems) REALLY needs to take personal responsibility.

But I STILL don't see as many people criticizing, or even poking fun at the WHITE underclass for its "pathological" behavior. Nor has anyone really criticized poor whites for their dialect making them sound retarded. (Didn't you know that Ebonics and Redneck-speak are rooted in the same Southern dialect?) I'm talking about a social-critic perspective, not a comedian's perspective. (Bill Cosby is a comedian and was speaking comedically, yes, but he was still speaking from a social-critic POV.)


Title: Re: Bill Cosby is awesome
Post by: dna on 2004-07-07, 16:54
Quote from: Assamite

But I STILL don't see as many people criticizing, or even poking fun at the WHITE underclass for its "pathological" behavior. Nor has anyone really criticized poor whites for their dialect making them sound retarded. (Didn't you know that Ebonics and Redneck-speak are rooted in the same Southern dialect?)
I'm an equal opportunity critic.  I make fun of red necks all the time.  Actually, way more often thaN I make fun of black people.  I don't want to be seen as racist you know.


Title: Re: Bill Cosby is awesome
Post by: Assamite on 2004-07-07, 19:19
Nobody does.

So they come up with half-hearted defenses, like "Hey, my best friend is black", etc.

That aside, like I said, I'm not talking about comedy here. I'm talking about social commentary. Meaning, there are not many books written that address the "pathology" of the white underclass as there are those devoted to poor blacks.


Title: Re: Bill Cosby is awesome
Post by: Phoenix on 2004-07-07, 19:31
For the record, I have no sympathy for fools, regardless of skincolor.  Stupid is as stupid does.