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For those who don't know, I will be running the Gen tournament at qcon. I need your suggestions about the tournament. What kind of things would you like changed? What kind of things would you like added? Any other comments/suggestions would be great!

Will the main prize be a kiss from the one running the tourney?

/me orders a belated ticket

the winner should get to go to the nudie bar.

Featuring the one running the tourney. ;D

*shakes her head* stupid males.

Anyways ... I didn't really see much of what went on last year w/ the tourney so I can't really say. Your best bet would probly be to talk to dic. *shrug*

Dicion handled the tourney last year, so he can provide the ladder information, etc.  Each year we've had some prizes to give out.  2002 it was a Koolance water cooling system, last year it was a most awesome Wirehead case wrap.  We'll need to think of some nifty swag for this year too.

2003 was the Koolance watercooled case and the case wraps.

I have the format for last year's tourney, but I just want input on whether you liked it and what not.

LOL tabby... do you plan on coming to qcon to find out?

foot: you don't want to see that... scarey sight... you might go blind

Prove it!

You are just SOL

Allright, here's my rough draft of the gen qcon tourney - lemme know what you guys think


Generations Tournament @ Qcon2004
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I'm not clear on how to divide up brackets based on the # of people, but I think this tourney setup will be competitive and good ol' fashioned fraggin' fun.

Note: g_spawnprotect needs to be at 0 or 1

1st round: 8-player FFA
 - All classes open
 - 40 fraglimit, 15 timelimit
 - top 4 scorers advance into the next round

2nd round: 5-player Random FFA
 - Random class ONLY
 - 30 fraglimit, 15 timelimit
 - top 2 scorers advance into the next round

3rd round: 4v4 TDM
 - Arena class DISABLED
 - 50 fraglimit, 20 timelimit
 - top scorer from both teams advance into semifinals

4th round: Doomed Wildcard FFA
 - Doom class ONLY
 - Losers from the TDM round playoff for a 2nd chance
 - 50 fraglimit, 15 timelimit
 - top 2 scorers advance into semifinals

5th round: Semi-final Elimination 4-player FFA
(Optional if there are too many people)
 - Arena class DISABLED
 - 25 fraglimit, 15 timelimit
 - top scorer advances into finals

6th round: 1v1 Finals
 - All classes open
 - 10 fraglimit, 10 timelimit
 - Continue 1v1 matches until there is a winner

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Maps:

1st round: Stormatorium / The Edge Revisited
2nd round: H2SO4 / Blood Run
3rd round: Iron Yard, The Abandoned Place
4th round: Sever the Sphinx / A Fist Full of Steel
5th round: The Bad Place v2
6th round: Eternal Arenas, Scrap Metal ][, (WE NEED MORE 1V1 MAPS!)

I've got a dumb question.Do you have to go to Qcon to play in the tourney or will it be on the regular servers?If not on the servers will anybody get demos so I can atleast see what happens,and who wins?Sorry for the dumb question.

I'm positive that this tourney will be a qcon-only thing =]

As far as demos go, I think that we'll push players to record demos as much as possible PLUS a floating-spec cam if we can arrange it. Demos will be taken - no worries =]

Spawn protection should be off for this, it is fine on the pub servers, but being tourny...its ultimately going to cause some issues....

First round needs to be random class though...keeps class hogging whores at bay...
Second round should be open class...really...this is where the weeding out of the weaker players wil take place...

ReQ2DM3 is great for 1on1, provided quad & invul are disabled for that. That's old-school Quake2 1on1 for ya ;]

Draft looks good to me!
The only thing I'm having a brow-raiser on is the TDM round. Then again, the Doom Wildcard as a losers-round makes up for any oddities..
Too bad I can't join! Oh wait, I couldn't anyway ;]

I'll argue that we should have an open-class round first then the forced-random class round second.

Having this tournament open to everyone, we should let players play how they're used to playing in Gen before starting to crack down on specific class limitations. This way we get the most talented and qualified players in the later rounds (in theory). The first round is intended to filter out the scrubs from the tournament. Also, the final rounds are open-class, just like a regular game of gen. I say let the people play gen, then throw them through the themed tournament, spitting out the best all-around gen players for the finals.

Bitch get your ass to qcon

I think that throwing a team game mode into what amounts to an every man for himself tourney is a baaad idea.

Restricting the rounds by class is a good one though. I'd honestly start with a large FFA round to weed out the stragglers, then proceed by small FFAs restricted by class, ending in the 1on1 round..

Why is it a bad idea? Straight 1v1 and FFA DM can get really dull, so mixing up the game types gives the tournament a unique edge. In the end, the best fraggers make it through to the finals, so the structure of the tournament does its job.

Not necessarily true. If a good player ends up with a sorry team, he could easily be put out of the running. This is why it's bad to put a team-based match in a tourney with a single winner.

If a good player winds up with a sorry team, he'll definitely get the highest score on his team and advance to the next round.

So you're talking about the top scorer from each team then? (Edit: Just read your post again, this is what you're talking aout)

Several good players end up on one team. The other team is a bunch of white shirts.

You end up with one good player and one poor player advancing.

Also, consider the number of matches and time invovled in setting these things up. Last year the tourney took several hours to complete. The more matches you run, the longer it takes to get organized and play.

It's just a bad idea. If you're playing a FFA/1on1 tourney, you stick with FFA or 1on1. If you're playing a CTF tourney, you stick with CTF. Same with TDM. You don't throw unfamiliar gametypes into the mix.

And I highly doubt that people would get bored with gen in the (relatively) short time a tourney takes, especially if we force different classes.

The Doomed FFA round is setup to pick up players who got shafted or who didn't perform as well as they normally do. The good players that are efficent at fragging will still advance and the poor will get filtered out.

A little spice makes most things nice, including this tourney I believe.

Plus, putting those two unique gamemodes in will help promote various styles of gameplay in Gen. It's good to broaden everyone's horizons =]

On a side note, has anyone looked at the part where we need more 1v1 maps?

While we're on the subject.. I do need suggestions as far as maps.. I don't want to throw in maps that you don't like... Also, what does every one want as far as the game type (ie ctf, tdm, 1v1).. The tourney is for all of you, not for me... so it's your call!

As far as maps go, i'd definately say no to anything with invulnerability.
Suggestions:
A Load of Useless Bloody Loonies
MKSteel
basically any really good maps without the invul, i believe it would unbalance the tourney a bit.

top places, i was thinking maybe for the losers a WHS gen window sticker or mouse pads, grand prize...WHS T-shirt, signed by the gen team, and a big hard drive? hard drives are getting pretty cheap nowdays...relatively speaking...maybe a DVD burner? i know they're a bit of a stretch, but its all i got hehe

I've opened up a thread on the main page asking for opinions. You can find it here (http://forums.wireheadstudios.org/index.php?s=&act=ST&f=18&t=1516).

Feel free to repost comments from here there.

I'm closing this thread.