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Title: runroll (How do you turn it off?)
Post by: shambler on 2005-05-01, 19:57
Just played vanilla q3 for the first time in ages and really enjoyed it (the new q1e3m7 map. Anybody know how to turn off runroll and viewbob etc? really makes me sick even .002 of roll. It seems not to be in the config file?.


Title: Re: runroll
Post by: Phoenix on 2005-05-02, 04:46
I tried changing both to zero, and it still does it in vanilla q3.  In fact it seems to always do it the same amount no matter what I try to set either cg_runroll or cg_runpitch to.  I guess I have another Id Bug to fix?


Title: Re: runroll
Post by: shambler on 2005-05-02, 17:47
Yes Please. it'll mean I can play longer without wanting to vomit. its the reason I turned to ut.


Title: Re: runroll
Post by: Khrystoph on 2005-05-04, 07:01
Okay, I think I got it.  Open the q3config file (each mod seems to have its own, so youmay have to do this more than once...?)  Look for the folowing lines:

set cg_bobpitch "#"
set cg_bobroll "#"
set cg_bobup "#"

Replace whatever the # is with 0 (zero).  Problem solved.


Title: Re: runroll
Post by: Phoenix on 2005-05-04, 17:46
Ahh, now those work.  Nice find!  :thumb:


Title: Re: runroll
Post by: Tabun on 2005-05-04, 18:28
I've found that one of those (I keep forgetting which one, possibly bobup?) resets upon exit, for some reason. I believe it is considered to be a 'cheat' cvar, but it's been a while and I'm not sure..


Title: Re: runroll
Post by: Khrystoph on 2005-05-05, 06:55
Possibly... (http://www.planetquake.com/thebind/faq.shtml)

BTW, Quake 3 apparently makes a new q3config to match your in-game settings everytime you exit.  Why it overwrites certain vars and not others is beyond the scope of my knowledge.  For the novice configurer (myself included, though I've had the game for YEARS), it seems like a crap shoot changing anything in there.  Some things work, and some don't.  So I've come up with another solution, courtesy of the site above.  Make a note/wordpad document, and put the aforementioned lines in it.  Add an extra line, //EOF.  Save as autoexec.cfg in your baseq3 folder and those settings should be set each time you fire up.


Title: Re: runroll
Post by: Tabun on 2005-05-05, 15:09
Way ahead of you there.

I've long abandoned that way of going about it; I now have a read-only q3config.cfg, with all my preferred settings edited in it. Not the best solution for everyone, but it damned well guarantees you'll start up with the settings you wanted. Even so, the bob problem exists...


Title: Re: runroll
Post by: Phoenix on 2005-05-05, 18:25
This should shed some light on it.  From cg_main.c:

Code:
{ &cg_bobup , "cg_bobup", "0.005", CVAR_CHEAT },
{ &cg_bobpitch, "cg_bobpitch", "0.002", CVAR_ARCHIVE },
{ &cg_bobroll, "cg_bobroll", "0.002", CVAR_ARCHIVE },

Anything flagged with "cvar_cheat" tends not to retain too well.  Cvar_archive means "save this in the q3config.cfg".  If you do a /seta (cvar) (value) as opposed to a /set (cvar) (value) it should retain the cvar in your q3config.cfg.  Since cg_bobup is flagged as a cheat cvar q3 might not keep it when you play even if you do that.  Why it's cheat flagged I don't know, except perhaps some script kiddie could use it to change the camera position way up or down using some insane values.  Seems like they should have just sanity capped it instead so people can still turn it off instead of making it a cheat cvar.  Maybe I'll do that.


Title: Re: runroll
Post by: dzjepp on 2005-05-23, 10:21
It's a dumb pb problem that's plauged me for a long time (pb flags it as a cheat). Most vanilla servers don't have this changed to you cannot use it, but a lot of osp servers have sane settings and these particular bob settings are not flagged as cheats. Personally it would be nice if the gen servers had it off too (if they already don't). ;)


Title: Re: runroll
Post by: shambler on 2005-05-23, 21:21
Quote from: Khrystoph


set cg_bobpitch "#"
set cg_bobroll "#"
set cg_bobup "#"

 
thanks guys. making the autoexec.cfg seems to have worked. Never played vinilla Q3 on line, as I stopped playing it before I got a fast connection. Its opened up a whole 'new' game for me.

Next on the list: play some Gore. remember that one? :ownage: