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Title: Quake 3: Revolution (Ever play it?)
Post by: NovAReapeR on 2005-05-28, 14:55
hey guys, ever play a game called Quake III: Revolution for PS2?

its basicly the same as quake 3 arena except the person you play as starts the road to freedom. AND you get cool skins and mutations if you are skilled enough to level up. by the end of the game, the vadrigar free you, and your lookin badass.


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: Lordbane2110 on 2005-05-28, 15:22
yeah i have that

doom, daemia, anarki, klesk and sarge are the heroes you can take through campaign mode

and doom ends up looking really heavily armoured and like you said badass

it's a pity that quake 3 doesn't have that mode


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: NovAReapeR on 2005-05-28, 15:23
yea i completed dooms campaign a year ago. i completed klesk's campaign yesterday :D


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: NovAReapeR on 2005-05-28, 15:32
dooms helmet shader is SWEET!!!!! anyone wanna help me make a skin like that?


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: Lordbane2110 on 2005-05-28, 19:30
id like to have a go at it except for one problem

1. i can't skin to save my life

other than that

oh and yeah klesk is dead hard to win with as he starts off really weak


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: Angst on 2005-05-28, 21:52
Anyone happen to have screenshots of these final forms?


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: Lordbane2110 on 2005-05-28, 23:06
i might be able to find some if i do i'll post em


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: Kain-Xavier on 2005-05-28, 23:16
While Q3: Revolution is not my favorite port, the RPG-like qualities that they added to it as well as the new gametypes and the inclusion of Team Arena weapons made it pretty fun.

I've tried numerous ways to try and check out the contents of the CD in hopes that I could make a personal copy of the skins and the levels for my own use, but unfortunately, it's some wierd compression format that Bullfrog (I think they're defunct now,) made solely for that game.


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: Lordbane2110 on 2005-05-28, 23:20
hang on i have the cd i'll see what i can do


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: scalliano on 2005-05-29, 04:56
Yeah they come up in Windows as "security certificates". :?:

I'd love to see the Vadrigar model on the PC game. Not to mention that cool map you fight him in.


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: NovAReapeR on 2005-05-29, 14:24
That map rocks! ive been looking for something on polycount that even seems REMOTELY simalar to the vadrigar model, no luck :(

ive also been looking for something similar to that final doom skin.

I guess these skins are one of a kind and amazingly droolingy high quality :(


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: NovAReapeR on 2005-05-29, 14:41
What is an STD file?

if i knew that i could change the format and stuff and make my own copy of the model.

or can we just make these skins? that would be fun too.


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: Lordbane2110 on 2005-05-29, 15:27
well i've looked it up and you need a program called dragon backup to open them

however you have to pay for it as i can't find it anywhere on P2P


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: NovAReapeR on 2005-05-29, 15:41
well, i found something simalar to the lord of battle doom skin:

Looks kinda like Lord of Battle Doom (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/doom/firey/firey.shtml)


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: NovAReapeR on 2005-05-29, 15:49
i have an idea for skinning the lord of battle skin. we could use the doom statue skin as a base, and then take it from there.

Statue skin (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/doom/statue/statue.shtml)


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: Angst on 2005-05-29, 20:33
I should point out, I've never SEEN the PS2 quake 3 skins, so unless they're already in q3a, I've got no idea what you're talking about.


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: NovAReapeR on 2005-05-29, 22:09
Its not in quake 3 arena. it was specifically made for q3revolutions to show that you've progressed from slave, all the way to lord of battle. i'll describe it.

It's basicly a white/silver skin, with a shader to make it shiny. on the helmet, its dark red and theres a laser scanner(which is red) shader moving up and down the helmet visor. it looks friggin badass dude u gotta get that game


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: scalliano on 2005-05-29, 22:39
All the custom skins in Q3R look badass. Sarge's LoB skin is especially cool.


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: NovAReapeR on 2005-05-30, 00:26
For Tabun to read:


this lord of battle skin is exactly the same person that mowed down horde after horde of demons. just one difference: he's defeated the vadrigar, and its 3 millenia later.
and besides, it would be cool to have a skin like that for anything. its just plain badass. :rules:

ill try to find some screenies. :P


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: Kain-Xavier on 2005-05-30, 01:22
I think the SDT files contain strictly wave files, but if you want to try, happy hunting. :p

Angst, the best that I could do screenshot wise would be to take a picture of my TV, get it developed, and then scan it in.  Needless to say, I've yet to take a good picture of something on my TV. :p


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: NovAReapeR on 2005-05-30, 01:36
if we ever do publish this skin then we'll have to give tremendous credit to both bullfrog, and iD software.


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: Footman on 2005-05-30, 02:18
Provided id let's you do anything at all.


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: Kain-Xavier on 2005-05-30, 06:16
Uh yeah... I mentioned that I tried to do it for my own personal use.  If somehow you do manage to extract the files, don't go distributing them, that's highly illegal and quite rude furthermore.


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: Angst on 2005-05-30, 08:44
If someone, say with a tv tuner card, could snag a screenshot or quick video of the skins in action, they could be recreated (providing they're SKINS, not models) with credit given to the creators. ie: Based on Doom LoB skin by John Q. Public.


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: scalliano on 2005-05-30, 14:27
Thay're definately skins.

Dammit, where's a working PS2 emulator when you need it?


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: NovAReapeR on 2005-05-30, 14:40
i alredy gave a description of the skins, and a base to work off of. the statue doom skin.
shall i post the statue again?


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: Lopson on 2005-05-30, 15:46
PCSX 0.8.1. . Still a beta, but runs some games. Hard to config.


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: NovAReapeR on 2005-05-30, 16:33
where do u get it?


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: NovAReapeR on 2005-05-30, 16:56
ok i just dled that ps2 emulator and i have no idea how to make it work


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: Nahand on 2005-05-30, 19:05
... if the PS3 does prove superior to other competitors, i *might* get it and then get that game. Those special options seem interesting... as soon as Sony changes the look of the pad, that is...


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: Kain-Xavier on 2005-05-30, 21:24
I never would have guessed it, but Gamespot has a ton of screenshots of Q3R and a few model renders, albeit not at the greatest quality.  Anywho, here they are...

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/quake3r...ns.html?page=31 (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/quake3revolution/screens.html?page=31)
Progressions of DOOM

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/quake3r...ns.html?page=17 (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/quake3revolution/screens.html?page=17)
Ultimate DOOM ;)

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/quake3r...ens.html?page=6 (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/quake3revolution/screens.html?page=6)
Progressions of Klesk

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/quake3r...ns.html?page=26 (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/quake3revolution/screens.html?page=26)
Ultimate Klesk

I'm not sure about the other skins as I have only played through the game with Klesk, but this skin has a shader effect on the eye sockets that makes them glow red.

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/quake3r...ns.html?page=24 (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/quake3revolution/screens.html?page=24)
Progressions of Sarge

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/quake3r...ens.html?page=5 (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/quake3revolution/screens.html?page=5)
Ultimate Sarge

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/quake3r...ns.html?page=21 (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/quake3revolution/screens.html?page=21)
Ultimate Anarki

You know for a guy whose name symbolizes the abolishment of government, it's kind of odd to see him bearing the union jack.

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/quake3r...ns.html?page=27 (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/quake3revolution/screens.html?page=27)
Ultimate Hunter

I love what they did with the wings on her helmet/trophy.

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/quake3r...s.html?page=112 (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/quake3revolution/screens.html?page=112)

This screenshot will give you a rough idea of what the RPG system is like.  In addition to getting boosts to your stats, each map has specific challenges that you can earn items from.  The items that you earn go into effect immediately at the start of the level.  In Ralph's case, the first time he spawns, he'll have a railgun.

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/quake3r...ns.html?page=91 (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/quake3revolution/screens.html?page=91)
An example of the customized loading screens

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/quake3r...ns.html?page=67 (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/quake3revolution/screens.html?page=67)
A craptacular shot of the Vadrigar model

I believe this screenshot also shows off the Rocket-Arena-ish gametype that Q3R has, but curiously, you never fight Vadrigar in this manner so maybe that shot is a beta thing.


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: Angst on 2005-05-30, 21:33
Ye Gods..

Doom's final skin looks SOMEWHAT like a personal skin of mine, but some of those are horrible :x.

Poor Sarge.. In a horrible teleporter accident, he's been merged with Duke Nukem...


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: Hollowpoint on 2005-05-30, 21:39
Damn, I could never view pics on Gamespot, for some reason.


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: scalliano on 2005-05-30, 22:37
Are these screens from the US version? The final Doom skin on my copy looks NOTHING like any of those. It's gold for a start ...

And we get Daemia instead of Hunter for Campaign mode. That skin isn't far off the Jaeger skin:

http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins...er/jaeger.shtml (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/hunter/jaeger/jaeger.shtml)

That Vadrigar shot is from the first time you fight him. The second time around he's mutated. I think the gametype you refer to is Skirmish where you have to frag an opponent a set number of times before teleporting straight into the next arena. Vadrigar's first appearance is in this mode (that's the screenie here) but the second map you fight him in(Final Resting Place) would rule as a standard tourney map. Shame you can't even use it for that purpose in Q3R. Below are a few shots of the map, but I can't find a decent one of his final form. If you look closely at the second one you might be able to make him out, but I doubt it:

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/quake3r...ns.html?page=29 (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/quake3revolution/screens.html?page=29)
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/quake3r...ns.html?page=10 (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/quake3revolution/screens.html?page=10)
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/quake3r...ens.html?page=9 (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/quake3revolution/screens.html?page=9)

As for the Anarki/Union Jack issue, it's a punk fing, innit?

Q3R also has the Reaper and Mistress models, funnily enough:

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/quake3r...ns.html?page=30 (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/quake3revolution/screens.html?page=30)


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: Lopson on 2005-05-30, 22:49
Sarge morfs to DN. Weird. Klesh rules.

BTW the config guide to the Emulator :

http://www.ngemu.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58506 (http://www.ngemu.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58506)

BBTW don't look to the compability list. there are more games besides those ones. It requires a lot from the PC.


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: Kain-Xavier on 2005-05-30, 23:07
Quote from: scalliano
Are these screens from the US version? The final Doom skin on my copy looks NOTHING like any of those. It's gold for a start ...

And we get Daemia instead of Hunter for Campaign mode.
D'oh!  Hunter isn't in the Single-player campaign at all.  I wonder why she got the cut.  I've never played through the game with DOOM, but I suspect that you're right.


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: NovAReapeR on 2005-05-30, 23:16
the Ultimate doom skin looks kinda like the US version.
the grey should be silverish gold and there should be a red laser scanner shader on the helmit visor going up and down

and the last time u fight the vadrigar hes in his true form. hes got wings and crap now.

angst can u model that ultimate doom skin based on what we said about the color?


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: Nahand on 2005-05-31, 15:25
... huug... from all skins, only Klesh is good, others are very boring (for all other caracthers). Hunter looks kinky B) ... Vadrigar looks like a wingless Uriel or so, or a close relative of StarCraft Protoss race...


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: death_stalker on 2005-05-31, 18:37
I mentioned that game in a previous post. It's a good translation (at least by ps2 standards)
But those screen shots of the DooMer skins just don't seem right for some reason or another.
*shrugg* Maybe cause it's been a while since I've played it. Anyhow, I think the second skin you're awarded is the best in my opinion. The splattered armour is the bomb. The posession mode is  awesome in it also. That's the mode I really wish was in Gen but may be a pain to code on top of everything else.




Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: NovAReapeR on 2005-05-31, 21:43
The DooM skin would be fairly easy to make, just use the statue skin as a base


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: Lordbane2110 on 2005-05-31, 22:46
it's a pitty there isn't screens of the ultimate daemia as she's my fav in the uk version


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: scalliano on 2005-06-01, 01:48
The ultimate Daemia skin in Q3R is mad looking. She almost looks the the T/X.


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: Dr. Jones on 2005-06-01, 05:07
does anyone know where one might be able to find skins for Quake 3 (PC)?  especially the doom skin >:D


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: Kain-Xavier on 2005-06-01, 07:17
Quote from: death_stalker
But those screen shots of the DooMer skins just don't seem right for some reason or another.
You're right to think that.  They're incorrect.  I went through DOOM and Daemia's campaigns last night, and I took photos of both the stat screen and the loading screen for each upgrade.  Unfortunately, the pictures came out horribly dark, and the sporkers at Sam's Club didn't develop all of my photos.  I'll see what I can salvage out of them if anything and post it.

If anyone wants to try something like this for themselves, there's a level skip cheat for Q3R.

While holding down L1, L2, R1, R2, and Select, press... X, Circle, Square, Triangle, X, Circle, Square, Triangle, and then release.  If it weren't for the loading times, this would make everything so much faster, but it took me probably about an hour or so to get through one campaign.  (The loading times are seriously that bad.)


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: Tabun on 2005-06-01, 12:50
Doom Statue is nothing like that ultimate Doom skin, because the former is just a 'stone-ized' version of the normal doom skin:

(http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/doom/statue/statue-f.jpg)

Frankly, I don't like any of the 'Ultimate' versions, since they are of lesser quality than the originals. It seems like they tried to gear perfectly good skins to some kind of cyberpunk/teenage-gamer wet dream, damaging Scott's original work in the process..


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: games keeper on 2005-06-01, 13:41


for your doom skins
http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins...kin-index.shtml (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/q3skin-index.shtml)


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: Lopson on 2005-06-01, 14:29
Quote
Frankly, I don't like any of the 'Ultimate' versions, since they are of lesser quality than the originals. It seems like they tried to gear perfectly good skins to some kind of cyberpunk/teenage-gamer wet dream, damaging Scott's original work in the process...

Exactly. Sarge is ugly, DooM is ugly, every ultimate form suck!


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: scalliano on 2005-06-01, 14:40
Tab: Well, it IS a console port.

To be honest, though, I'd be more interested in getting hold of the extra maps. there are a couple includede in the EA and Dreamcast mappacks. but those little Rocket Arena style tourney levels are noweher to be found. Bummer really.


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: Lordbane2110 on 2005-06-01, 20:51
hey!!!

i like the cyberpunk style skins


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: NovAReapeR on 2005-06-01, 22:15
yeah. the US ultimate doom skin is much better than the UK version. no offence

it doesnt show that much bloody skin


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: scalliano on 2005-06-02, 00:12
That could be a fair statement, except that I haven't seen a shot of the ultimate Doom skin anywhere on this thread or on Gamespot.


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: NovAReapeR on 2005-06-02, 01:23
looks like ultimate doom pretty much


Crusher (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/doom/crusher/crusher.shtml)

now only if the helmet shader went up and down


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: death_stalker on 2005-06-02, 04:56
Umm...the crusher looks more like a Cylon for Battlestar Galactica. I think I'll stick to my usual model, he just looks so damn sweet!!! (Awesome job whoever skinned him) -The green one with the bloodied arm

I mean I have my favs on Q3R but they pale in comparision to Gen's models  <3


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: NovAReapeR on 2005-06-04, 00:08
pscx doesnt work well. i need to either get some skinning skill, or take a digital camera picture of my tv.


Title: Re: Quake 3: Revolution
Post by: NovAReapeR on 2005-06-04, 15:58
my digital camera dont work :(

can someone else snag a quick shot of US ultimate doom?