Title: Rioting in France (And Elsewhere...) Post by: Phoenix on 2005-11-07, 15:59 Quote PARIS (AP) - Rioting by French youths spread to 300 towns overnight and a man hurt in the violence died of his wounds, the first fatality in 11 days of unrest that has shocked the country, police said Monday. http://apnews.myway.com/article/20051107/D.../D8DNLIF06.html (http://apnews.myway.com/article/20051107/D8DNLIF06.html)As urban unrest spread to neighboring Belgium and possibly Germany, the French government faced growing criticism for its inability to stop the violence, despite massive police deployment and continued calls for calm. As much as I know some will gloat over this owing to strong anti-French sentiment in the US, I wonder where will this go from here? This is becoming more than just a French problem. It's spreading, and I don't like the looks of where this could be headed. Title: Re: Rioting in France Post by: Woodsman on 2005-11-07, 16:29 i wont lose any sleep over it.
Title: Re: Rioting in France Post by: shambler on 2005-11-07, 20:42 I am amazed that theres only been one death so far.
4700 cars! if you consider how big an area that must be over, it puts the problem into perspective. Title: Re: Rioting in France Post by: Phoenix on 2005-11-07, 22:39 Quote from: Woodsman i wont lose any sleep over it. Neither will I, but I am concerned about radicals in other places (possibly in the US, etc) taking a cue from this and acting out yet more violence. If they don't get this under control soon it will have all the earmarks of a Jihad in Europe, and if it even looks like it's having any degree of success that means incitement elsewhere. I don't think this is going to explode into a full-scale uprising, but that possibility does exist.Title: Re: Rioting in France Post by: Kain-Xavier on 2005-11-08, 07:33 Quote from: shambler I am amazed that theres only been one death so far. Same here. I read about the rioting a few days ago. It's rather unsettling that a riot of that size has broken out, but it reminds me a lot of the riots in New York when minorities were clamoring for more rights. I'm not saying that it's the same scenario here, but I find it interesting all the same.Title: Re: Rioting in France Post by: Woodsman on 2005-11-08, 20:49 a riot is a riot. One is no more legit than another.
Title: Re: Rioting in France Post by: go4a on 2005-11-08, 21:25 so.. we have big problems here , but nobody see it, because everybody hate us..
i can't see any country or any people, who can say, that oir country is 'good'.. it's really frustrating.. ps. sorry for english :] Title: Re: Rioting in France Post by: Tabun on 2005-11-08, 21:53 Well, don't worry go4a, there's at least one member on these boards that doesn't see nationality as a definitive/essential part of a human being and who doesn't think any country or nation to be superior or inferior to another. Yours truly, for instance :]
That said, riots suck. I'm keeping a close eye on their effects and the way things proceed, but I'm hoping there won't be much more to note.. Title: Re: Rioting in France Post by: Moshman on 2005-11-08, 21:59 Make that two.
Title: Re: Rioting in France Post by: Phoenix on 2005-11-08, 22:55 You don't see me gloating, do you? I am not happy with the situation at all.
Title: Re: Rioting in France Post by: Woodsman on 2005-11-09, 02:44 Im not happy with it.... im just... not sad.
Title: Re: Rioting in France Post by: Kain-Xavier on 2005-11-09, 10:01 I didn't mean to sound unconcerned either. Riots are riots and are never a good thing. My mom was clocked on the head and rendered unconscious in one of the riots in New York. Luckily, she was near a co-worker at the time, and she was pulled away to safety.
Protesting rarely requires rioting, and I do hope the riot can be surpressed in a "relatively" peaceful manner. The only reason why I feel it is interesting is because from what I've read, the people rioting tend be youths of the minorities in France. That doesn't make their rioting righteous, but it does make me feel the need to question what is compelling them to go to such extremes. Title: Re: Rioting in France Post by: Phoenix on 2005-11-09, 16:35 Should that even be a question? It's simple, they feel the need to cause mayhem, so mayhem it is. We can question all sorts of things, like living conditions, socio-economic pressures, etc, but it boils down to a large number of like-minded people seizing an opportunity to cause destruction. I would be more interested in who has filled their heads with the notion that it's OK to pillage and burn. That's not protesting. That's lawlessness.
Title: Re: Rioting in France Post by: go4a on 2005-11-09, 19:33 I know a remarkable joke just for that theme - flies 'Deep sh*t for all' on the sky, sees the house *BOOM* - burns, sees a haystack - *BOOM* - burns, sees the house - *BOOM* - nothing - *BOOM* - nothing.. 'Deep sh*t for all' flies up to a window and looks - anybody don't f*cking care =)
i don't know how you will apprehend it - but actually it is ridiculous =) The author is Gvaneckyi :) Title: Re: Rioting in France Post by: go4a on 2005-11-10, 17:50 mmmm... What time do you have right now ? )
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