Wirehead Studios

Ahh, the internet is one big friendly and safe place, is it not?[/sarcasm]  I'm sorry to hear that you ran into something like that, and your reaction is definitely understandable.  Now regarding hentai in general, some people just get off on animated pornography.  Everyone's turn-ons are different, it's a fact of human nature.  However, I don't see any legitimate reason why someone would depict juveniles.  The only reason for this is to skirt pedophilia laws by using animation since (obviously) no actual children are involved.  That I do have a problem with because it's only pedophiles who would find such a thing enticing.  Catering to the scum of the earth makes one even with the scum of the earth.

Just accept that these people are worthless lumps of flesh not even worth thinking about and move on.  Sooner or later they'll do something stupid enough to go to prison for.

I don't have a link to the story, as it happened several months ago, but a man was arrested for downloading images -- specifically, artwork done in an "anime" style -- of underage girls. A rare case, but it shows that it's not quite a safe work-around.

you really didnt know that till now ?!?

This could be a bad assumption, but I have a strong feeling you're referring to Card Captor Sakura.  From what I've been told, there is a lot of lesbian and homosexual innuendo in that anime to begin with.


Add me to your list I guess...


I watch both.

Here's why I like hentai more...

There are no STD's in hentai.
There is no pregnancy in hentai. (Unless you like hentai depicting pregnant women)
Everyone looks ideal.
Everyone achieves an orgasm at the same time.
Things happen in hentai that could not happen in real life currently.  (Sex with aliens, sex with anthropomorphic creatures, etc.)
Odd fetishes can be fully explored and sexual frustration can be vented (Vore (the eating of people), guro (death and mutilation,) rape, water sports and defecation, she-males, transexuals, futanari, beastility, furry, hairy, diapers, spanking, loli (under-age and child-like characters,) and shota (sex between adults and children.)
I don't have to treat real women as a masturbatory aid.

The list goes on...

Basically, I like hentai because it is an excellent way to reduce the stress in my life.  I treat it the exact same way I treat videogames whether they be of questionable content or not.


Hey, it's understandable.  It can be a bit too easy to stumble upon pornography on the internet.  I will not tolerate being called a pedophile though.


I am not a pedophile, and I do enjoy hentai that depicts under-age children.  I am especially fond of hentai that depicts older women having sex with under-age boys as that was always a fantasy of mine growing up.

It is disgusting that pedophiles exist, but I feel that a great deal of hentai depicting under-aged characters exists for entirely different reasons.  Oftentimes, such hentai exists simply because the artists were fans of the source material or fans of the character themselves.  What if's and sexual parodies and such... Why the hell would somebody create pornographic images of Rugrats and Hamtaro?  I have no damn clue.  Probably for the same reason people sing about incest and rape or why games like Grand Theft Auto are made...

It may not be right, but I certainly feel that it is not wrong.  There are probably couples out there who fantasize about what it would have been like to have sex when they were younger, kids who want to fantasize about people their own age, under-age girls who want to have sex with an older man... What kind of outlet is there for such fantasies? Hentai is the only one I can think of.  (Besides dressing up in rediculous costumes of course...)


If you truly feel that way, then my little speal (sp?) won't change your mind of course, but I am not a pedophile.  Worthless?  Perhaps, but I have zero interest in sleeping with children.


If they were digitally-altered photos of real under-age girls, and he was a pedophile, then let the bastard burn.  If they were simply drawings, and he was a pedophile, then let the bastard burn.  If they were not, and they were simply drawings, and the man was truly not a pedophile, then I think the accusers should burn.

Ugh, you have to try to muddy the water don't you?  I like you, Kain, but this is something I'll not be able to understand.  I don't really care to try either.

Which, in the real world, is landing teachers in jail right now.  I know it can be argued that blowing someone away in a video game is simulated murder, but I can't really see the similarity between offing zombies and watching the corruption of youth in animated form.  I still can't sanction that.

I'll take your word on that, but I would think making hentai about anything and everything under the sun (and some things that aren't) seems a bit... perverted?  I can understand if someone has an attraction toward a specific character, but I don't see why someone would want to turn every animated thing they're a fan of into a sex orgie except that they have a severe hormone imbalance.  Remember, I don't approve of sexual promiscuity in general, and I'm diametrically opposed to the culture that's spawned the rampant promiscuity and debauchery that exists today and is accepted as "normal", so my feelings will be heavily biased here.

Because they can?  I don't like games like Grand Theft Auto either.  I despise Rockstar because it seems they can't make anything that's not "in the gutter" as far as sex and violence goes.  I invoke personal standards here, no apoligy for it either.  It may be legal, but I don't have to like it nor buy it.

Just for clarification, my thoughts for that specific instance were directed at the people who make the stuff.

I doubt I'll ever understand how someone can like hentai involving children and not be a pedophile at the same time, but if you say you have no interest in pedophilia I've not known you to be dishonest so I'll accept your word.  I doubt you'll find much understanding of your apetites among other people who do not share them, though I must admit, you have quite a bit of courage to express your inner thoughts on this in a public forum as such.  I can admire that at least.[/color]

And with that, we've discussed everything we possibly could in this forum. Holy shit.

Seriously, you are like some kind of crazy ghost Deth. You just show up every now and then, and talk to somebody, but none of their friends will believe them about it.

It was a bad assumption then (and a poor way to start an argument on my part.)  I'm sorry about that.  I looked up Ojamajo Doremi, and I can definitely understand how most people would be put off by seeing hentai involving the characters from the show.

Phoenix:  Thank you for acknowledging my point of view.  That was all I was shooting for.

There are a lot of different genres of hentai that I won't go near, but I  will defend their right to exist.  I am the same way with videogames.  Both have played such a strong role in my life that I feel threatened when they come under fire.  I am also not keen on going to prison. :p

My view? (not that anyones asking, mind) if you don't hurt anyone, do as you like. (but does that include hurting yourself?)

shamb , I share your opinion .

People are burning down embassies over a bunch of cartoons - why would you worry about Hentai, of all things? I know it's not necessarily relevant, but it's just such a hipster thing to make a fuss about forms of 'art' these days. Some people make pictures of women getting 'roasted' like they're pigs. The women in question seem to enjoy it, and presumably there are people out there who like watching the pictures. Hentai is even easier, since it doesn't involve live subjects.
People are weird - let them have their little fantasies and quirks. The only alternative is a collective comatose state, or a huge outbreak of human blow-outs, this time where it matters.

and that is exactly why this country has been so great, because you have that choice, we all do. its called responsibility, and less and less people are taking it every day. its there because theres a market for it.  the sad thing is, pedophiles, etc.. generally DONT watch that kind of stuff. they usually appear to be normal, every day people. its 'assumed' that that kind of stuff is out there for 'pedos' but in all reality, they ones that ARE pedophiles, arent watching it.. theyre out being pedophiles... there is definately a fine line you skirt with this kind of stuff.  

as pho put it. dont like it. dont support it. but the fact is it will live until we either become some fascist nation run by soccer moms(gross exaggeration, probably under our current system this stuff could theoretically become illegal anyways with enough bitching from the general populous) or until there is no market for it and noone has the desire to view such things.

personally. i dont like it. but if it stops just 1 person that otherwise might act out such fantasies on some poor little kid? then id say its worth it for it to exist, doesnt mean i have to watch it.

Tab:  I'm not calling for anyone to get their torches and pitchforks ready over some hentai, underage depictions or not.  We save those for the pedophiles who actually hurt real children.  Now if someone is not a pedophile and is getting off on hentai of underage people, like I said, I can't understand it, but as in Kain's case I'll take his word on it and that's enough for me.

I do draw the line at calling it "art", however, and yes this is a personal rant because, well, check the forum title.  Here's how I define this, since it tends to be a fine line sometimes since some art, historically, has included nudity.  We all know how some modern so-called "artists" just want to hide behind the term "art" to try to bring some kind of legitimacy to public exhebitions of anything sexually vulgar that, in any other context, would break public indecency laws. I take issue with that.  To me, an illustration, model, sculpture - whatever, that exists mainly for someone to get their sexual jollies is pornography.  Period, end of discussion.  A sculpture, painting, illustration, or model that may contain some nudity but is not created primarily for someone to get their sexual jollies is more likely to be art.  There are plenty of examples of each, and I don't really want to be explicit on this forum so I'll sum it up like this:  If Phoenix doesn't like it, and Phoenix doesn't want to see it, then Phoenix says it's not art.  Someone else might, but this old bird does not.

Also, I am neither condemning or condoning pornography here, that is not my intent, I'm just showing where I define each.

 :offtopic:  Well Washu, see it was like this. I got drunk and found myself in Moscow where I befriended (beknownst to me) the guy who made the spam bot that invaded the forums. Unfortunately, when I found out who he was I got really pissed off and started to scream very bad words about him and his family. I felt pretty decent about the entire ordeal when it occured to me his family were all ex-KGB agents whom could kill me with the nuclear heat vision. I was than oblidged to open up a can of whomp on all of them followed by what is referred to as a double-filp, stick kick. I owned them all. Then I had to swim the berring Straight and walked all the way back home. The first thing I did when I returned was look up controversy corner to see if I missed anything important. I did not. I hope that gets you back to speed, Washu, on where I've been. :offtopic:

Er... Um...

 :rtfm:

Or something...  O_o

I'm a bit late in posting.. but I don't really have a problem with hentai. I do have a problem with kids in pornographic situations tho.. be them drawn or not. Just my view.. and I'm a heavily bias person. So, I avoid such things.

I'll stick with furry art. :thumb:

Furry art, or furry hentai?  :D

Wait... There's a difference? -_-

But really isn't hentai just anime porn and furry stuff called either "furry porn" or "yiff work"?

[ insert long rant about people calling things 'art' that simply are not ]


The word 'furry' gives me the willies. Especially in combination with words like 'erotica' or 'porn'. Furry porn is porn from the 70's - wonderful for a laugh, but one cannot help but wonder if people with that many hair ever existed (take that, theory of evolution!)..
I do know what is being referred to as 'furry-porn' here - don't ask me why - but I think we should rename it to 'fable-porn' or something along those lines. ;]

so-called 'furry erotica' or 'yiff' artwork used to be referred to as anthropomorphic, then shortened to anthro, then less and less as it stopped being art and turned into porn.

I'd imagine it has something to do with a lacking social life and piles of repression.

Hentai anime is similar in the regard that much of the worst is almost a direct product of sexual repression finding somewhere to vent, hence the overabundance of rape, multipartner sex, misc impossibilities/exaggerations rather blatantly showcasing the artist, and by association the consumer's, utter lack of sexual activity.

As for pedophilia, that's a mixed issue. While I generally frown upon sexual activity at that young of an age, japan's legal limit is 13 as I recall. Americans tend to be rather prudish on this as well, but an age difference of 5-10 years has been relatively common for some time.

Younger females are viewed favorably when it comes to mating in general. Genetics is funny like that, as soon as a healthy mammal is capable of producing offspring, a large number of them get right to it. Carrying and birthing a child is extremely taxing, and most women undergo relatively major change after the second or third child. Whereas the average male is capable of producing sufficient genetic material well into old age.

Efffectively, a 40+ year old man ogling early-to-mid teens girls is most likely frustrated both sexually and with the loss of his youth. Almost like an inverted Oedipus complex.

Trivia aside, most of this is simply because people need to get laid, and just won't admit it.

You mean the fact that "intellectually superior" man lives in utter denial of his instincts?  See this is what really sets mankind apart.  No other species can lie to itself the way humans do.  The stuffed shirts think man is above "base animal instinct", whereas humans are driven by instinct the same as any other animal form of life.  This plurality of thinking - man is evolved from animals, yet is somehow not subject to animal behavior nor can animals reason - has always confused me.  The only explanation I have is denial and self delusion for those who think this way.  Instincts exist for a reason, and they are very good if you understand them.  They keep you alive as individuals and as a species.  You just have to be aware of them so you can know whether or not it's a good idea to listen to them at the time.

There is other furry artwork other than the porn.. but hey, I look at both. So whatever. I mean, something as simple a guy drawing a ripoff Looney Toons comic can be considered furry.

Yea, I look at both.. but I more prefer being a fan of the characters that already exist... Bugs Bunny, Tony the Tiger, Chester Cheetah, Minerva Mink, etc. All of which I only look at in a non-erotic sense.

The trouble with people is that they can't get past the stereotype set by lord knows who. Granted, the majority of the fandom fits into that stereotype quite well.. but not all of them do.

*rant deleted*... In all seriousness, 'normal' people are just as bad as furries when it comes to sexual kinks. And often times worse.

Well when it comes to sexual kinks, at least the furries are honest about theirs.  Everyone has their kinks.  I find more often than not it's the "normal" people who tend to be in denial about what does and does not affect them, which tends to give them over more to unwanted temptations they might not act on if they acknowledged them in the first place.  It doesn't mean you have to share these feelings with other people, nor should you let them rule you, but you should be aware of your impulses and not lie to yourself about them, especially if they go against your beliefs in some way and you wish to maintain control over them.

There is always the question of cultural acceptence of course, people tend to react badly to things they do not understand, which is why some things are best kept private.  It's a question of what is culturally taboo.  I tend to take a dim view on unwritten cultural laws.  They are "mob rule" mentality and repressive.  How many people in the past have been beaten or killed simply because someone else thought they were a "freak" because of such prejudices?  And why, what harm did they cause to their assailants, just by being different in some way?  Feelings of personal guilt or discomfort should never be based on these sort of rules since society as a whole is often dead wrong on many things.  My belief is that if it does not violate any personal moral standard, nor break any civil law, nor violate your religious beliefs, nor cause injury to someone else (human or otherwise), then there's no problem with it, and it's not my business anyway.

Now if we could beat a similar stance into everyone's head the world would probably be a better place.

Anyway it seems some people here didn't get the memo, so here you go...

The internet is for porn.

wether or not it'll disgust/nauseate you is just a side effect.

I <3 Hentai

I personally don't do the porn thing, but I have no qualms with people who want to.

I mean, we condone all this violence in our society, heaven forbid we see boobies.

ZOMG A NIPPLE? NOOO! IT'S KILLING THE CHILDREN! WTF DO WE DO?!?!!1?

you just have to love idiots and their stupid half-time stupidity, and the morons who go ape shit pver the stupidest things.

I'll stick to pooping on cars, thanks.

Well... I didn't mean physically... or like a family member... more in with the blunt side of a baseball bat...  :ninja:

To tell the truth, I'm rather into hentai, but the furry/anthro kind...I don't like it when humans are involved, they're ugly. I'm mostly attracted to female avian/reptile type anthros though. ^_^

Uh... yeah.  I'd be a bit upset running across something like that in a search too. :omfg:

You know when to change search engines when...

Um... cartoon sex? Yeah... eww...
*slaps Plaque and Ice Dragon and goes to poop on some cars.... the Scions because Scions are ugly*