Wirehead Studios

Phoenix also knows something called dignity, style and he's got a great deal of self-control (at times ;)). He did not suggest nonsense (3 times over), and did not force his ideas upon the team without caring about the opinions of the latter (although I wasn't there yet at the time, ofcourse :)).

And frankly, those are the reasons I have been part of WH for the last 2.5 years (if it hasn't been longer) - I can't even remember the socks I used to wear back then.

New rule: lay off the namecalling too - especially considering there's absolutely no need to.
Ps. i still don't get what
means...
or actually I do, but I didn't :]

Jesus! What kind of freakshow poll are you running here boy? Your removing a large amount of your polling population by excluding those with asses. Meaning less of a probibility sample and more error in the poll, plus it makes the poll ungeneralizable to the general population, making it more or less useless. Just ask your local Methodologist

For the record this is a silly idea

EDIT - What happened to the board here, its all backwards with large spaces

Just say no to anythingmojojojoesays!

unless it makes sense, ofcourse, mykul. :)

I voted no because all of the new, shiny weapons of the expansion packs simply don't interest me, not even back then. I don't know of anyone that really played them [excluuding SOME Q3:TA that I only know OF], so your argument is out of luck in my eyes.

If you wanna come up with ideas, think of ones that'll attract people to the game, like cooler logos =p

Oh and by the way, there was (obviously) Tabun for you. Lee will most likely be a no go, since he RARELY ever sounds off on the boards. Any other requests I could fill, perhaps?

No more editing of peoples private use of word people have a right to know

:rolleyes: Hm..ouch for [a request like such.....

I had no clue. I am trying to do something nice for my brother and this post was for the public not beta testing and its known as shareware it cant be frowned upon because it is very leagle and I get the feeling Wirehead cares nothing about others and doesnt care or even think of other peoples opinion and also even if you did you would just discard it or ignore it you dont take any opinions exept bugs but you dont really care there aswell. If wire head studios cared they would do me this. Also Personal note to Tabun and Phoenix Talent you have and tallent sells why waste it on hearthless people who care of only themeselves. please understand this post also Oobey all you said is grow a sence of humore you should grow a sense of mercy sincerety compassion and appologise which you havent done once you make statements against people that hurt them inside they tell you it hurts and you call it a joke. Feelings being hurt are no joke just like my brothers will be. also OObey stop editing me the people have a right to know besides the are you in WH a messengerbot(that wasnt namecalling its what it seems like to me. my guess is your a beta tester. for god sakes I used to do that I even reacently did a 10 page internet reveiw for Gen arena it got a lot of good contact and hopefully it helps gen. Very impressive but long review it does list the bugs but it says they arent that bad mainly bot errors listed besides its just a beta anyway also i dont no what resugence or whatever is what is it? Lilazzkicker have you in real life met anyone on the team because if not you realy cant call them friends because friends stick with you in real life in the flesh no offence gen. Also SORRY FOR THE MISUNDERSTANDING ABOT THE CODING THING I DID SOME RESEARCH AND SEE IT ISNT GOOD TO ADD THING DURING CODING BUT KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK

:angry: Tallent sells, yes.  but having the talent and not the heart to code/model/map/game makes it quiet useless to do so doesnt it?  Who cares about the money that can be made? Most these team members work outside in the real world, and here as a team, i would call that being alot better then most these game companys that pop out a game so bug infested it should have been delayed going gold. And calling the people heartless who have been here a year or more, myself, almost as long as con has...by 6 months, warezing is quiet illigal, btw, why are you attacking me? Con, part of the team has been a close friend for a good part of my life, and i met Warden for maybe 5 mins in his presence, guess what? He seemed like a good enough person, maybe i havent met a bunch of the team, but my input does have a higher value, then some.


Is there somewhere we can review this review?

MoeJoe, so far, while you may have ticked off 95% of the forum population, I haven't taken much notice of you.

But now I care.

You are an idiot. I have never seen a more ridiculous series of posts. First you propose nonsense, then you insult the people who point out said nonsense, and now you've gone and pissed ME off. I'm going to give you this ONE warning, this ONE time.

A) You are to cease and desist thinking and thought-like processes, for obviously such a feat is beyond your capabilities.

B) If by some chance, you DO have a thought...I advise you to re-think it.

C) If you have had a thought, have rehashed it several times, and still decide on speaking, I advise you to learn the english language before opening your mouth. When you know what periods (.) and commas (,) and capital letters (ABCDEFGHIJKLMOPQRSTUVWXYZ) are, you are then capable of proceeding onto compound sentences and paragraphs.

D) After learning English, I implore you to learn manners. One does not bite that hand that feeds it, so to speak.

E) After all of the above criteria are met, then, and ONLY then, are you permitted to offer a suggestion to this team. When you can present a clear, concise, workable idea to this team, I promise you that we will at least consider the idea. We may reject it, if it is too complicated or simply not in line with what we plan for the mod.


With that being said, I hope that you can become another productive member of this community. If not, I shall remove you. Permanently.

Alright, alright, fine, the people have a right to know. You wanted the quake 2 expansion packs (which are not and never were shareware) for free basically. Brother or not, warezing is NOT acceptable under these forums, and the penalty for that is the deletion of your post and a warning. I just did both in one fell swoop by editing yours.

Now, moving on. I dont know where you get off basically calling us heartless bastards who don't care about others, but that is quite possibly one of the most retarded things I have ever heard anyone say in my entire time online, and believe me when I say I've heard a lot of stupid stuff. If we didn't care about others, why do we constantly have betas to find bugs? Why are we even releasing this mod? Why do we try to foster such a tight-knit active community? Huh?

More importantly, you've obviously got an insanely huge set of balls if you have the guts to tell some of the hardest working, most loyal members of the team that they're wasting their time sticking with us. Screw you. You don't like our team and our mod? DON'T PLAY IT! Seriously, there are tons of people out there who want to play it, and quite frankly I don't give a damn if you're not among them. And what was that thing about 'if wirehead studios cared they would do me this.' WHAT? What kind of drugs are you smoking? You are in absolutely no position whatsoever to dictate what we should do with our mod. Do you write suggestions to id software simply because they sound good in your head, and then act all shocked when they dont get put in the game? NO. So stop expecting us to be any different. We obey the whims of the COMMUNITY, not of the USER.

Finally, stop bringing up your brother. I don't care if he's supposedly a quadraplegic with leukemia who's only wish is to play the quake 2 expansion packs, YOU STILL WON'T GET THEM FROM US. Even if I did chose to believe your story about your poor little brother, it doesn't matter, warez are warez. Besides, the way it seemed in your last post, you're just bringing him in on a note of pity and compassion, and that only makes you seem pathetic. "Oh, mean OoBeY, you're going to hurt his feelings." Spare me. I seriously doubt that he's going to be reading any of my posts, and if you truly were that concerned, just go down to your local CompUSA for God's sake. Last time I checked, you could buy the Quake 2 expansion pack set for pretty cheap nowadays. I guess your concern for your 'brothers feelings' doesnt extend all the way to your wallet. And as for feelings being hurt in general? Bite me. This is a flame war forum, and guess what, this is now a flame war thread. If you can't stand the heat, get off of the boards.

Oh, and as for your information, I'm not a beta tester... I am, in fact, the CODER for Blast Arena. So don't even get started with me.

I m not being possy but first off truth hurts and you are a hipacrite because all the thing you have told me are rules you dont obey. It doesnt make a difference if your an admin thats like a cop saying he protecks the law and he speed very frequently. also comp usa you say I live in Belton MO thats in the midle of nowhere surrounded by somewhere a enigma in it self the closest compusa would be in Lee sumit far from here abot 45 minutes and my old man has a seriose neck injury but y0u probably dont care. also the puncuation is chat standard now used on most forums. And my key board sucks. also abot the rule thing I can find probably over 20 quotes in full sentances each that go agains the rules you are telling me. O'well il give compusa a try, probable 10 bucks or cheaper, all three quakes are sold there in a pack for 19 bucks. also you are not seeing the facts a complamented gen many times and I SAID YOU DONT CARE ABOUT PEOPLES OPINIONS AND NEW IDEAS. You just used sogs gen idea and you did have support on this mod your team members the best thing i got is a visa creditcard hacker in CA. So I said I m sorry now can we gt back to life besides its just  game and I only play Gen now for quake 3 even for quake 2 if i feel like it. So lets just get back to life its 1 am where i live I dont want trouble also by the end of school my bro will be taking my place. You wont have trouble with him. The next time I post should just be general chat stuff no ideas unless someone insults me again some one please just delete this topic. Like I said and am saying now I wont be trouble for the rest of the time of me being here unless someone starts crap about me first and the review was on my web page which is underconstruction and probable going to be replaced by a Main hilights reveiw im working on Im teaching my brow how to make good reveiws hes catching on fast he has a whole weapon reveiw on gen i just dont want to type it thats his job. So lets stop bickering I m sorry for pissing anyone off and thats all for tonight. ps confused us you have cofused me first please rethink you statisticks way to big of exgeation and im christian you basicaly in your last post may as well call yourselfe god wich insults me dont tell people what to think your getting to personal about your job :ph34r:  :)  :P  :huh:  :o  ;)  :lol:  :D  :rolleyes:  :angry:  <_<  :(  :unsure:  :blink:  smile once in a while.

this 'chat standard' punctuation of yours is impressive. you managed to write a paragraph, of which i can understand less than half. from what i can make out, you are still whining about the of hypocracy of wh and how no one will listen to you, etc. weve been through this. now its just sad. as are your attempts to find pitty. you look like you are trying to be far less offensive in this post which would be a step in the right direction, but your attitude suggests something different in the future. when you say you wont be posting any more ideas, 'just general chat stuff' it tells me that you are still harboring resentment and are probably deep in slef pitty at the moment. feeling that way will only hurt you and others in the future. you need to realise how things work in a community like this, and i belive that untill you do so, holding off from posting would not be a bad idea.

Well,  we actually learned something from frodo, i mean mojo here:

you get lots of attention if you:

1. pick a mod team
2. pick a ridiculous idea and believe fermently in it, no matter how bad it may seem.
3. see it get rejected and ignore any or all of the good arguments for this
4. proceed to complain and whine about this obvious outrage and hurtful neglect of the 'community' and the 'people'.
5. if that seems to fail, proceed to attack any or all team members personally with incoherent bursts  of chat-insult.


for the next steps, i might give you a hand and offer you a few suggestions:

6. congratulate yourself on a job well done
7. find another mod/dev team that has a messageboard
8. return to step 1 - and fire away!

and maybe, some day in your inevitably long life ahead of you:

n. grow up
n + 1. revisit all the forums that you've flooded with inane babble and apologise
(and in the process realize that after all those years, most of these teams still exist!)

okay I will call a new vote .
this one could be root but hey.

callvote kick mojojojoe
F1 yes  :)
F2 no  :(

Dear:

• Clueless Newbie
• Lamer
• Flamer

[ ] Pervert
[ ] Geek

• Spammer

[ ] Racist
[ ] Jackass

• Troller

[ ] Fundamentalist
[ ] Satanist

• "Expert"
• Wannabe
• Dumbass
• Waste of Skin/Gray matter/Blood

[ ] Other:

You Are Being Flamed Because:

[ ] You imported another debate into this post

• You obviously don't know anything about the topic at hand

[ ] You posted a 'Top 10' post.
[ ] You posted a 'Religion' post

• You started a long, stupid thread (or three)
• You continued spreading a long, stupid thread (or three)

[ ] Your post is absurdly off topic for where you posted it

• Your lack of understanding of the fundamentals is disgusting

[ ] You posted a 'Lord of the Rings' post

• You posted a "YOU ALL SUCK" message
• You posted low-IQ flamebait
• You posted a blatantly obvious troll
• You followed up to a blatantly obvious troll
• You said "X rules, Y sucks" and gave no support for your lame statement
• You make no sense

[ ] You made a post yet failed to say anything
[ ] Your sig/alias/avatar is dreadful

• Your post contained nothing but psycho-babble.
• You are claiming that you know more than Newton, Ohm, Pavlov, etc.
• Your awful grammar made the post unreadable
• You made a baseless assertion
• You posted SCREAMING in RANDOM CAPS (OR IN ALL CAPS) for NO APPARENT REASON

[ ] YoU tYpEd SoMeThInG lAmE lIkE tHiS
[ ] You say your 'L33t liek Jeffk.', Or your spelling is so bad that no one can read it.

• You didn't do anything specific, but appear to be so generally worthless that you are being flamed anyway

To Repent, You Must:

• Refrain from posting until you have a vague idea what you're doing

[ ] Stop masturbating for a week
[ ] Read every group you posted to for a week
[ ] Give up your AOL account

• Bust up your modem with a hammer and eat it
• Tell your Mommy to up your medication

[ ] Jump into a bathtub while holding your monitor (monitor must be plugged in)

• Actually post something relevant
• Read and memorize the MANUAL

[ ] Print your home phone number in your ads
[ ] Be the guest of honor in alt.flame for a month


In Closing, I'd Like to Say:

[ ] Blow me

• Get a clue
• Get a life
• Go away
• Grow up
• Never post again

[ ] I pity your dog
[ ] You need to seek psychiatric help

• Morons like you give ammo to pro-censorship morons

[ ] Yer momma's so fat/stupid/ugly that etc...

• Take your gibberish somewhere else
• Go back to school and actually learn something
• Learn how to post or get off the site

[ ] All of the above

I have no self pitty I have no fellings Im not a dumbass you  dont even know me And I meant general chat stuff as post replys that are hmm maybe... like complement artwork keeput the good work stuff like that I am and always will be a loner I dont chance who I am 2 times I only do once and once has gone. But I will obide the rules you want me to post the bible about repentane I will if I have to

Alright.

This is completely going nowhere - with the speed of light.
This will be my last post in this topic, and hopefully about this entire facade.

Two things are very clear at this point:

1) only 1 'Yes' vote in the poll - 13 against. A hell of a lot more probably weren't able to take this serious - for which i don't blame them - and didn't vote.

2) this topic is not just controversial, and it's become quite a bit too blown up to fit in any corner.

To everyone: Let's get on with more pressing matters now, or at least something less mind-numbing.
To mojojojoe: Take a deep breath. Accept your defeat in this - at the very least on the subject of your proposed idea. And for smegs sake, take that tiny bit of advice I posted in here earlier.

Letsee, everyone else has given you a warning, and I dont wan't to miss out on this, So here's my warning If for no other reason then being a complete and total moron, with an apparent IQ that probably is the same as the number of fingers you have on both hands. BTW, I'm assuming that number is less then 10, due to said low IQ.

I accepted defeat several pages ago and my IQ is 125. something and thats not a negative number. I said you dont know who I am so Everyone back to a post that matters such as yours and will someone delete this topic please its giving me a headach

If the topic is giving you a headache, stop reading and replying to it, then. Once you land in Controvery Corner, there's a really good chance that means 'Hey this topic is pretty stupid everyone, this is what happens when you act like a retard on the forums,' so it'd defeat the point to delete this great example. (EXCEPTION: Serious debates. Those, too, live here, but it's easy to tell them apart from retardo threads like this one.

Anyway, I'd like to bring up this stunning gem from an earlier post of yours: 'You just used sogs gen idea.' ...excuse me, what? Do your homework before you presume to tell us who's ideas we stole, for god's sake. SOG is the repackaging of the original Gen Q2, the same mod that gave rise to Gen Arena (with many of the same mod members).

Finally, I'd like to take issue with your whole 'OoBeY you broke many of your own rules' thing. Specifically I want to see a rundown of all the rules I supposedly broke and how I broke them. That shouldn't be too hard as there are only 5 rules in CC, and I clearly didnt break 4 of them (I didnt troll, I didn't advertise porn, I didn't advocate warez, and the final 'rule' is just one that lets me add more rules as I see fit) That only leaves name calling, and:
A) I can't find any occurances where I went beyond veiled insults and into a direct 'you are an assgoblin trolling retard'
B) I am in fact an admin, and guess what? Your cop analogy doesnt apply here on the internet. Don't like the way I admin these forums? Leave. (Hey on a side note that's like the fifth time I've suggested that, and every time you ignore it you only end up getting flamed more, HINT HINT)

In summary: Not only did you lose, you now look pretty stupid in the eyes of most forum members. If you continue to post in this thread, I will have no choice but to continue to publicly humiliate you.

(http://www.geoffdavis.com/pics/Flamage/dumbpeople.jpg)

tabun can you make 1 last post here together with oob , dicion and Con.
and say in it


F1

Nice pic Dicion. Btw what do you laydies and gentlemen think about my avatar?

iS THAT WHY YOU MAINLY POST HERE YOU SEEM TO FIT THE CATAGORY AND SOGS WEBSITE BARELY HAS ANYTHING TO REASERCH SO BESIDES I DONT HAVE THE TIME AND WILL SOMEONE JUST DELETE THIS TOPIC SO WE ALL CAN GET BACK TO LIFE PLEASE FOR GOD SAKES THERE SHOULD BE A RULE WHEN A CC TOPIC REACHES 3 PAGES IT IS DELETED BECAUSE ITS POINTLESS AND THATS WHY ITS THERE IVE BEEN DEFEATED NO I D LIKE TO FORGET ABOUT THIS WHOLE MATTER WHAT DO YOU SAY A DEAL DELETE THIS TOPIC BECAUSE ITS A POINT LESS 3 PAGES AND I LOST ANYWAY YOUR ADMIN YOU CAN DO TAT CANT YOU. OOPS STUPID CAPS LOCK ;)  SORRY FORR THE QUOTE ITS MY FINAL STATEMENT FOR THIS TOPIC :) Also any good forum admin abides all the rules no matter what position or forum section they are in.

You know, if you stopped posting here it would go away... mmm-hmmm

Where were you when God was handing out brains?

Mojo:  First, F*** You.  I haven't seen you actually play Gen yet, so until you kick my ass at this game, you should consider yourself in no way qualified to discuss balance issues or changes that need to be made to the mod.  Second, F*** You.  ANYONE who has more posts than me, and less playing time, is obviously speaking straight from their ass and has no valuable experience upon which to base their moronic ramblings.  Third, F*** You.  I'll play you on any server you like, provided I have under a 150 ping.  I don't want to see another 'monkey banging away on the keyboard' post from you until you've kicked my ass.  So come on.  Pick a server, pick a day, pick a time.  I'll take your money AND your virginity.

Oh yeah, and F*** You.



(expletives deleted for the children's sake)

Being that this is one of my fields of research, i'd simply like to say that anyone who knows anything about IQ scores knows that unless your a 30-40 year old straight protestant white male with a wife and two kids living in a semi-conservative household in the middle of an urban environment that IQ scores are about as relevant as ICQ numbers. Finally, no one of any form of intelligence ever mentions their IQ numbers for any other reason other than to prove themselves to others.

That's about it

http://www.planethalflife.com/bchl/images/...o_got_owned.jpg (http://www.planethalflife.com/bchl/images/bwahaahahahahaahah_mojo_got_owned.jpg)

WOW, YOU LOSE

lol now I wanna play against him .
think I can handle him with a melee weapon .
lets say im gonna wak him with the axe . mwhahahahaha.
or do you prefer getting sliced by a knife.
oh well guess im just gona punch you withmy fist till you go screaming for your mommy . mwHAAHAAAAHA


and please people start voting F1 .

Man... that was a lot of BS to run through to get this far.

I couldn't read any of Mojo's posts here because they were too... uhm... unreadable. No commas, no capital letter to start a sentence(sorry to say it, but this also applies to redx... heh). In any case, I won't go as far as others and say anything as deep as they did... because I really don't care. It was a bad idea, and got shut down at the start... anything that happened afterwards was Mojo's fault.

As for not playing Gen online to request class balance... I won't agree 100% here. Sure it helps, a lot, but I rarely play online. Mostly due to this crapass college connection, but... oh well... :/

Hm, he ran out on the second round of the game, camped half the time, and the other half ran around blindly....

comparing my writting to mojo? i kill you for that. i admit that i use capital letters as most people would use the bold formatting, but good god. my writting is as coherent and well punctuated as could be expected from a very lazy man like me. please do not put me on his level, it makes me sad.

lol, red.

Wasn't saying anything about coherancy. Your posts are actually readable(no mis-spellings or bad english), except for the long ones where everything seems to run together to me. I guess it's just me, my reading style, or something, I dunno... I'm weird like that. :)

Lets get one thing straight. The english language is on its last breath in North America outside of the academic circles.

Um....you know why my title is "off probabtion" Mojo?

spawn, its simply not possible to have a discussion of balance using only the behavior of bots as your data.  Sure they have great aim, but that's really it.  I don't think its an accurate asessment of what the class is capable of, that's all.

F1 , GK :P

I did actually vote the poll, but I didn't like the idea. I will answer to this polls regardless of the person (who in this case is a *ick), because some ideas may be even great.

thx atom till now 100% of thevoters voted yes : B)

I don't go by bots... I go by how the class is played(mostly Slipgate because I played[and still do play] a lot of Q1). Like in 99a, Slipgate rockets were just too damn fast... I didn't need to play against other human opponents to figure out that much. Let's see what else... Slip-jumping comes to mind again, Nail speeds too slow, picking up a slipgate backpack as earth reduced all bullet ammo to 2, slipgate not taking fall damage...

I didn't need one human opponent to figure all this out. Likewise, problems with other classes were brought up by others that played online a bit more against others. I was just comparing Slipgate with Q1 except for the red armor problem(makes him tank like, especially with his rockets) which others brought up. I didn't really consider it a problem... camping red armor was always a strategy in Q1, no matter how lame it was/wasn't.

I've got a more productive end to thsi thread: Ignore the rant, or lock it.

You guys always seem to drag your feet on what you dislike, and like to discuss it =p

why not? this is a discussion thread

Tekhead, quit trying to moderate the forum. There are forum moderaters for that.

Chances are I'll never close any CC threads. If it's bad enough to warrant that, chances are its bad enough to just warrant full out deletion. Other than that, this is the perpetual flame forum, basically. You wanna ressurect ancient dead topics? Fine by me...

I on the other hand will lock a topic if it gets extremely out of hand, results in a very bad personal argument, or falls into the category of  "bashing".  No, I don't mean "CS-bashing" either, that's allowed.  You know what I mean.  Emphasis is on "extremely" here, I'll stay hands off for the most part.  This is mainly OoBeY's home. :)

blah blah blah blah blah!!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...


disregard this post, just getting 400 or whatever I'm up to now, I don't remember. :)

Well Phoenix, I just said I won't LOCK threads, I'll only DELETE them. In my experience, locking it only makes it worse, because people stumble on the thread, become offended or whatever, and then go and create an entirely NEW thread for it. Might as well let them sound off in the original, or just bury it forever, imo.

Wait.. if you kill the thread does it kill my postcount? Better say no boy... or the ninja's will come for you...  :ph34r:  :ph34r:  <_<  :ph34r:

Ninja's, HA! Let them come, I'm sure my ronin guards can handle anything you dish out :P

Ninjas? Ronin Guards? wtf... My army of undead minions is ready for anything you lamers can dish out. >)

I didn't say my ronin guards were alive... Their souls are mine :D

Well, I tend to not delete threads for a reason, what lesson can be learned of the mistakes aren't there to see?  Locking the thread ends the escalation of a problem, but deleting it to me pretends it never happened.  Unless it's completely useless that is, then yes, I say axe it.  That's just my personal take on things, I prefer to learn from the mistakes of others and not make them in the first place on my own, and then learn from mine when I make them as well.  I realize other people might not look at the situation the same way.  I won't tie your hands on moderating as you see fit.  If a thread warrants deletion then go for it.  We just have different styles in how I handle things.  I can respect that. :)

Same here, my good bird.

Ooooooo.... undead Ronin Guards then? Let's join forces then to vanquish those lamer ninjas and show 'em the meaning of pain!

On a side note: I wholeheartedly agree with the locking of the LooF thread. Honestly, people, if you have nothing new to contribute to a thread, please STFU.

yea STFU
have you guys even noticed that mojojojoe hasnt even posted yet for the last 3 pages?

I'll stfu when I feel the need to stfu... god damn it I know when to stfu, I'm not one to keep on ranting and raving about things that don't make no sense. When I'm told to stfu, I stfu... so stfu-- telling me to stfu when you should stfu yourself.  :blink:

~random post with no apparent meaning... just had to be done, tee hee~

You're right, that post had no meaning. Random off-topic stuff goes one door up, in the Off-Topic Forum. If you people are just going to keep coming in here and using this as some sort of playground (as though the Off-Topic Forum simply wasnt enough to satisfy your random stupidity needs), I will continue to lock threads. This forum is for debates, discussions, and flames only. This also retroactively applies to that one Oz vs Wonderland post that was in here a while back. People, for God's sake, use common sense and follow the rules, ok? Randomness goes in Off-Topic forums, and flamewars go in here. Not vice versa. Get it straight.