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Title: Big Brother is watching Eu
Post by: Phoenix on 2009-08-04, 01:44
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The Children?s Secretary set out ?400million plans to put 20,000 problem families under 24-hour CCTV super-vision in their own homes.

They will be monitored to ensure that children attend school, go to bed on time and eat proper meals.

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/115736/Sin-bins-for-worst-families
Do I even need to comment on this?


Title: Re: Big Brother is watching Eu
Post by: ReBoOt on 2009-08-04, 10:43
Well post seems to have been deleted thought..but it sounds terrible, but i guess in the future every step will be monitored by the goverment(or some major business)

Every man should be able to decide over his own life these things just makes me mad.


Title: Re: Big Brother is watching Eu
Post by: scalliano on 2009-08-04, 19:15
Work sets you free, happiness is an unproductive condition, etc.

And I thought the porno movies on expenses claims shit in this country was bad - the US government wants to (effectively) set up its own free amateur porn channel for itself.

One means of population control, I suppose ...


Title: Re: Big Brother is watching Eu
Post by: Phoenix on 2009-08-05, 15:43
Scal, you realize this article was concerning the UK, right?


Title: Re: Big Brother is watching Eu
Post by: Tabun on 2009-08-05, 16:41
I'm not so sure this isn't a case of Tabloid-scare-reporting. If it's true, it's horrid. If not, it's a typical hoax.

http://www.dcsf.gov.uk/news/content.cfm?landing=family_intervention_projects&type=1
http://twitter.com/edballsmp

That doesn't prove anything, but neither do panic reports (that are often enough copied without question). There's plenty of F.I.P. plans, even if this is not true, so ...


Title: Re: Big Brother is watching Eu
Post by: Phoenix on 2009-08-05, 19:52
I certainly hope it's not true, but it seems cameras are popping up all over the place now so it's not so much of a stretch.  I think there's a duality in this.  One may argue that people are just paranoid about stuff like this, while at the same time, it begs the question:  What has happened to society that such a possibility has become so readily acceptable as being real?  Expectations are built upon past occurrences after all, and increasing government intrusion in private life is very much real.  Maybe the question should be, why is something like this so damned plausible now?  What has happened to the world that such things are even conceivable?

It's not much better in the US, either.  One look at the Obama administration shows more government control inflicted upon private industry in his first 100 days in office than happened during all of Bush's 8 years, and it's only the start of what looks like a push for governmental control over just about everything.  I just have to wonder why there has not been as much vocal opposition to what has transpired so far.  Where are all the "Bush haters" that were terrified of Bush and Cheney taking over the world?  Now that someone is actually doing it, I'm hearing only opposition from the right.  Is control not control regardless of who is pulling the puppet strings?  I must assume then that for some, government control over their lives is OK so long as they like the person doing the controlling.  If the opposition is only to the person in office, and not to the principle itself, well that's a problem in my eyes.  Leaders come and go, but lost liberties are damned hard to get back.


Title: Re: Big Brother is watching Eu
Post by: Arnie on 2009-08-06, 18:21
Ed Balls, says it all really.


Title: Re: Big Brother is watching Eu
Post by: scalliano on 2009-08-21, 00:09
Scal, you realize this article was concerning the UK, right?

Er, yes. Temporary brain-fart on my part. :wall: