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can i get this skin put on the central server.
thanks

Ohhh, I have this skin.  Good skin!  This brings up another little question:  Would anyone be interested in seeing a Generations Arena skin pack at some point?

I would!

Speaking of skins, any ideas when we can expect the Jaeger character?

A skinpack would rule!

however, variety in the skins is what would be best - no need for each class to have 5 dark/jungle/cammo skins  :blink:

I like the skins to have multiple colors - blue, red, green, orange, etc.

That sounds like I should get back in the game, and get some skins on ;]

P.S. LOL @ the skeet of the week award thingy :)

You like that? ;)

*shakes her head* Look what you started pho ! Playing skeet w/ humans is bad, mmkay ?  :lol:

Anyways, skinpack = wewt ! DO IT ! That would kick ass. The end.

Yes, it would be nice!

skin pack would be cool.
not enough choices for models.
i'd like to be able to use my regular q3 model
massacre.

That's coming eventually roadkill. And I agree, Massacre is a damn good model.

Yes, a skinpack or two would be very nice... Should we start making suggestions? ;)

Speaking of Jaeger though, how is the model support going to work once it's implemented? Will we be able to use any model we like, as we currently do with skins, or will we be limited to selected models that are given the appropriate animations and shoveled into a fitting generation?

Pretty much that's the way it's going to have to work.  I don't want to go off topic and get into details about that here.  Right now we're talking about an official skinpack for the existing models.

hunter undressed has my vote.
LOL

Less models, more skins.

Either that, or replace the current class-specific models with upgraded, original versions. :)

last time this came up.
it was everything that fits goes into a gen catigory.
and everything else goes into areana.
it's a little out of wack right now.
some areana's are in earth,doom,strogg and slipgate.
but custom skins will be cool.
i like not having to play sarge for earth.
strogg for strogg is cool but any brutish caracter fits strogg.
doom well only doom fits doom for some reason.
slipgate is kinda the same way.
just my 2cents
p.s. I look just like my avatar
 :D

memememe .

next skins and/or models should be included .

ranger/death-ranger
ranger/mech-ranger
doom/deimos
tankjr/prototype6
tankjr/slumber
grunt/q2major ===> ask him from lee he has him together wih some other skins I would like to have  :rolleyes:
xaero/slayer
sorlag/gratha
keel/daemonknight
visor/x
orbb/poke
klesk/flisk
klesk/exist

maybe some other .

(this skinpack should come across 10mb or so )


models

imp
arachnatron
revanant  (but please ad the bones sounds to it )
 :hail:  reaper (just to relive the old dungeon keeper a bit ;)  )  :hail:
 :rolleyes:  mistress (again, dungeon keeper )
 :unsure:  gargoyle (hs something of the klesk and sorlag classes , dont know what .


and maybe a seperate pack with
q4hybrid
q4gladiator


thats my list
 :thumb:

10 MEGS OF SKINS?!?!

wow... do they really take up that much space? I mean... dang. Individual maps are that big - loading Gen would be like running two maps at once or something =x

>Ohhh, I have this skin. Good skin! This brings up another little question: Would anyone be interested in seeing a Generations Arena skin pack at some point?

I would!  :thumb:

Roadkill:  That's not exactly how it's going to work for custom models.  I do not want to get into a model support discussion on this thread, so I'll reserve an explanation of the system until a later time.

Games Keeper:  We're talking about skins.  You've suggested some custom models.  We're not adding in custom 3rd party models at this time.  We are discussing a pack of custom skins to be (possibly) released between now and 1.0.  Be patient on the model support.  You're getting ahead of me here.

As far as suggestions go for skins, if anyone has LINKS to skins they like please provide them.  Saying "I'd like this skin" and "I'd like that skin" does no good unless we know where they are so we can take a look at them.

I still say that you guys should check out how CPMA builds custom skins. You start off with a pure white-armored one, divided into three sections: head, torso and legs. You can vary the colors of the 3 any way you want with 32 (? I think 32...) different colors. Very cool :)

And on that note, I've made another little something:


(http://www.planetquake.com/tabun/tmp/preview_stroggslave.jpg)

I figured not all of the soldiers would be refined as delicacies. After all, it's way too much fun to see terrified earthlings get slaughtered by their former friends. ;]

Based off of the recon skin - which i might have to redo texture/brightness/contrast-wise, since this is lots nicer..

Also, I'm very much in favor of adding a shitload of nice Generations skins to the paks - but preferrably skins made by Wirehead. That way we won't get lost in massive amounts of skins bearing no relation to the Generations world. Perhaps some skins that were very popular back in the days of the original games, reborn (scott's work for quake2, rorshach's work for quakeworld, that sort of stuff, or basically an ode to). I wouldn't mind seeing wolf's Blaze back in his prison garment, for example :]

Woo! Okay, suggestions. I'm sure there are many more skins of good quality out there, but these are some of my personaly favorites, which I have kept over the years even after multiple pruning of my Quake 3 folder. They're fun to use and fun to look at, a combination made in Heaven ;)

Headless Hossman (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/biker/headless/headless.shtml)

King (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/bitterman/king/king.shtml)

T600 (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/bones/t600/t600.shtml)

Apokalypz (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/doom/apokalypz/apokalypz.shtml)

Chain (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/doom/chain/chain.shtml)

Rampage (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/grunt/rampage/rampage.shtml)

Torque (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/keel/torque/torque.shtml)

Dragon (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/klesk/dragon/dragon.shtml)

Analeyes (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/lucy/analeyes/analeyes.shtml)

Nakita (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/major/nakita/nakita.shtml)

Angelique (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/mynx/angelique/angelique.shtml)

Death-Ranger (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/ranger/death-ranger/death-ranger.shtml) Previously mentioned, and for good reason ;)

Laerth (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/sarge/laerth/laerth.shtml)

Terminator (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/sarge/terminator/terminator.shtml)

Jade (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/slash/jade/jade.shtml)

Prototype 6 (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/tankjr/prototype6/prototype6.shtml)

Necroscope (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/uriel/necroscope/necroscope.shtml)

S3 (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/visor/s3/s3.shtml) My all-time favorite Quake III skin  :thumb:

cuffs (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/anarki/cuffs/cuffs.shtml)

the stroggo bot from polycount (stroggo doesnt have a bot version)

DARK (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/bones/dark/dark.shtml)

T600 (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/bones/t600/t600.shtml)

HO (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/crash/ho/ho.shtml)

apokalypz (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/doom/apokalypz/apokalypz.shtml)

argus (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/doom/argus/argus.shtml)

CHAIN (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/doom/chain/chain.shtml)

DEIMOS (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/doom/deimos/deimos.shtml)
how can you let phobos in and deimos out ??

STROGG_FEAK (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/grunt/strogg_freak/strogg_freak.shtml)
we cant all survive a strogg war

T4000 (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/grunt/t4000/t4000.shtml)
you cant put t600 in and let T4000 out

Daemon_knight  (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/keel/daemon_knight/daemon_knight.shtml)
its my favorite ;)

SELKK (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/klesk/selkk/selkk.shtml)

SCHISM (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/klesk/schism/schism.shtml)

angelique (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/mynx/angelique/angelique.shtml)

cleaner (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/orbb/cleaner/cleaner.shtml)

poke (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/orbb/poke/poke.shtml)

mech-ranger (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/ranger/mech-ranger/mech-ranger.shtml)
hes as good as death-ranger

death-ranger (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/ranger/death-ranger/death-ranger.shtml)
(figures)

jade (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/slash/jade/jade.shtml)


reptilo (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/sorlag/reptilo/reptilo.shtml)

gratha (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/sorlag/gratha/gratha.shtml)

grimmtank (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/tankjr/grimmtank/grimmtank.shtml)

slumber (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/tankjr/slumber/slumber.shtml)

prototype6 (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/tankjr/prototype6/prototype6.shtml)

necromage (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/uriel/necromage/necromage.shtml)

necroscope (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/uriel/necroscope/necroscope.shtml)

HERO (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/visor/hero/hero.shtml)


x (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/visor/x/x.shtml)
also a favorite of mine

darkheart (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/visor/darkheart/darkheart.shtml)

slayer (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/xaero/slayer/slayer.shtml)

scorpian (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/skins/quake3/xaero/scorpian/scorpian.shtml)


thats my list .

but please, put in some bots with it for those guys , and for stroggo , yuriko , roderick ,zael flisk and the others .

I'm really not very impressed by the stuff in the previous two posts. There are ofcourse exceptions: Torquemada is great - but what does warhammer 40k have to do with Generations? :]

A lot of the skins weren't made from scratch (bits of id skin) or are rather dull and pointless (chunky's rampage? I'm working on a rampage skin, but that will look like the original Quake2 rampage ;))

Just repeating the main point in my previous post: If we're going to release a Generations skinpack, I strongly feel it should represent one or more of the generations (or the vadrigar's experiments on them ;))
Anyone can download the above skins and install them to their liking - I just don't see what they have to do with us :]

I'd support a skin pack, but I'd like to see in-house Wirehead ones instead of random scrapes off the net.
Most of those others don't move me at all.  I'd just have to go to default models then.

I tried to keep my suggestions in tune with each Generations. I mean, I didn't post the Tron skin or anything  :P

I do, however, agree with you Tabun. Original content would be much better, assuming you guys would be willing to devote the time and energy to it.

didnt lee make almost ALL of quake 2 male skins .
he even posted pictures of them .


but where are they .

you go tabon,
let me know if you need any help.
never done any skins,
the shapes are already done.
it would be weird drawing on the flattened out patterns.
P.S. I realy do look like my avatar.
 B)

And here's another preview:

http://www.planetquake.com/tabun/img/gena/...iew_rampage.jpg (http://www.planetquake.com/tabun/img/gena/preview_rampage.jpg)

I am in agreement with Tabun here.  We have one of the best skinners around, so why not turn him loose?  Those look most excellent, Tab!

yea yea , nice skins


BUT WHERE THE HELL ARE LEE HIS SKINS
(I only have the q2major skin
can sombody contact him for me .




k , guys that fit in generations he .

that strogg-freak I said ,

mech-ranger and deah ranger

deimos

daemon knight

Just to show my willingness to take a look and the fact that I really considered some of these skins as add-on options.. a quick review of 3 skins GamesKeeper mentioned in the previous post.

1 - Deimos

(http://www.planetquake.com/tabun/tmp/deimos.jpg)

Ah yes, the name. A name worthy of a very cool skin indeed, if any. Phobos was kind of a bullshit skin in Quake3 if you ask me, but it looks very cool. Let's have a gander at this Deimos version then.

First thing you'll notice if you study the above picture: 60% is original Quake3 Doom skin. So what we're looking at is basically a glorified Doom-skin recolor. Wait, did I say glorified? That wasn't the word I was looking for ... :]
The bits that the author added are very sadly aliased, making it look as though they were splashed over in paint. Wheverever he/she's touched the skin, it has gone very dull indeed. It's basically a monochrome bitmap in those area's.
For a good example of detail-inconsistency, compare the grey holster with the pants they're stuck onto.
Sorry, but this one 'll never make it on my list of acceptable-skins. I might steal the name and do it a bit more justice later on though :P


2 - Daemon Knight

(http://www.planetquake.com/tabun/tmp/daemon_knight.jpg)(http://www.planetquake.com/tabun/tmp/daemon_knight_h.jpg)

A nice concept, and not bad for a first skin, as the author states it is. It even has very few bits that weren't made from scratch, bravo :]
On to less jolly news: It may be a Daemon Knight to the author, but I don't really see why.. Looks more like a 'Daemon Cyborg Spawn' to me. The author has some skill, but that hasn't prevented him to fill up most of the skin with horizontal gradients (much like what people mostly used when skinning for Quake2 :)), and an amazing amount of huge cut&paste rivets. Again, not bad, but still lacking in the colour department.
I wouldn't even add this one if it had anything to do with Generations at all.


Then there's, for example, the Strogg Freak. Although I personally don't like it, it would do for a Strogginized version of Grunt - The theme is right, the concept kicks arse ofcourse ;p. However, we HAVE a Stroggish-Grunt. Grunt now has a shitload of Lee's Quake2 remakes, and a handful of my own. I'd say he's done for a bit ;]

I could go on, but this 'll do, imo..

Anyway, there's very few Generations related skins out there, and very very few of those are worth looking at. Polycount was a nice idea, but it got clogged by shitty recolors, 'first timer' skins and tons of unimaginitive and bland bitmappage. I say we can outdo them easily - while keeping in style with the rest of the Generations artwork.

can we do somekind of voting on the skins we want in and out ?

Define "we".

I want original Generations-themed skins done by WHS. For the quality that they're capable of, not needing to ask permissions to use them and the skins being designed around Generations makes them better than most all other skins you could find on the 'net.

Skin away guys  :thumb:

 :thumb:  :thumb:  :thumb:

I agree, there are a number of talented skinners both in and associated with Wirehead Studios. I'd prefer a Wirehead skinpack to any group of skins cobbled together by other artists.

I agree too i want the skins to be made by WHS

lets give TAB our wishlist then .

1) a deimos skin would be cool (we have already a phobos )

2)some new ranger skins that fit into the team

3)maybe a remake of the doom/phoenix skins ( I know the author I gues , but I dont know where you can find him )
http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/info/...unleashed.shtml (http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/info/quake2/doomunls/doomunleashed.shtml)

4) maybe somekind of colorskins like ranger has for generations right now , but then for ALL the basic q3 models .

Phoenix did that entire model pack. It's what got him the job as modeler for Generations.

At the moment, I'm planning to do these skins next:

- A nazi skin for earth - Possibly fat and possibly insane nazi pig (biker)
- Another nazi skin for earth - Think about the RtCW nazi leather bitches, and picture mynx among those
- A deathknight for slipgate - Or any other kind of daemonic/zombie knight in Q1 style that keel will allow

What happens next I'll have to see by then..

- The Deimos skin is optional, provided something original comes to mind - just ANOTHER color variation of Doom would be a waste - If anyone has any good ideas, just let me know.
- Same goes for Ranger skins really - It's just slippy.. - I might make a daemonic slipgater version though - somewhat like the deathknight, perhaps
- And ofcourse, indeed, maybe a Phoenix skin, just as an ode to the bird :]
(on that note, I might make every hardcore WireHead team member his own skin, just let me know what you think of that, and whether or not you'd like one :))

I've been dying for a 'shaft' Ranger skin for years. Black/blue/white electricity pattern, shadered if possible. It's hard for me to describe what I see in my head, but I might get with you on IRC about this if you're even remotely interested. ;)

I knew that :P


for me something demonicwith a blue an yelow in it .  B)

And another's done, it should be fun to shoot this bastard:

http://www.planetquake.com/tabun/img/gena/...eview_swine.jpg (http://www.planetquake.com/tabun/img/gena/preview_swine.jpg)

ya LOL.
good work
maybe just add a comb over and make him look realy pathetic.
 :thumb:

lol hehe cool tab! looks like this guy is drinking way too much beer :D tho i whouldnt mind fragging him ;)
Nice skin!

Biker would make an excellent skin headed nazi biker punk.  Don't forget to put a swastica tatoo on his fat head!

Looks awsome!  :thumb:

Make him drunk tab!  :P

Red nose n' cheeks  :)

Ehrr.. stop making suggestions about how I could go slower, already! :]
Swine's Fine.
On to the next, 3 down, -an insane amount- to go!

P.S. I assume GK's joking Pho - I've started assuming that for every post he makes ;]

dont forget my a blue and red skin :P

Games Keeper:  You are not a team member.  Read more carefully next time what Tabun says!

I have some ideas in mind for a personal skin for the Doom class, if we do some personal skins.  What I'm thinking about is quite a bit different and more refined from my old lava-texture Q2 skin.  I'll have to get some concept stuff for that and see what you think.  I was originally thinking about doing my own a while back, but I can't even come close to matching your skinning ability.

What I had thought about doing for Con's Ranger skin was a nod to the effect on Phobos.  That is, give ranger some armor with sections where it looks like raw electricity is crackling over it, with silver metal along the edges.  I can see it in my mind, I just can't translate it to photoshop.

Ranger needs a 'grunt' type of skin, hehe. Not the character Grunt.. the pansy q1 enemies called grunts. I'd be all over that one... or an Enforcer type of deal for Keel.. but Keel doesn't have a helmet. He could almost fit the role of Enforcer quite well. :)

Oh, yeah  :D

thx for mentioning pho , anyway Tab , red and blue boy , red and blue  ;)


and we can always put another headmodel on keels head . (maybe iven try to pull of the same stund as with the doom model . if pho is open for it  :unsure:

Pho - he might not be a team member, but he is HARD-CORE TO THE MAX!!!

Yeah..hard-core moron!

Just kidding GK, just kidding. ;)

<_<
just put  th words
I failed english "
on my skin

Oh boy, it doesn't help that I truly hate ranger as a model. It's so rigidly fixed as.. well.. Slippy.
It's an oddly shaped fella, with huge packs on his legs and a very typical helmet indeed. Wrack I understand, but basically it's just Slippy after a bad night of rough sex with the Hell's Angels.
The model is rather unfit to function as a grunt (even sarge would work better, or grunt).
First I'll try and get Keel to look like something of an unhelmeted Death Knight. (I do sound like a broken record :)).

As for the Team Member skins, post the ideas, possible sketches and/or other concepts ekcetera in a (1) new thread there. It'll be ages before I can and want to start on those, so this topic will be WAAYY down :]

Btw, I could easily model some very fitting heads for some models.. provided that would pay off ofcourse..?

Tab: go start a thread in the private forum for team skins/ideas, so that it's not bogged down. Not much goes on in there, so it'll stay visible for a long time.

And as for headmodels, talk to Pho. I don't think it'd be an issue, but he's the one to check with, as always.

WE NEED A SOVIET EARTH SKIN!

I like that idea... There were, after all, more forces in WWII than just the Americans and the Nazis. Maybe we could give Mynx a Geisha skin as well  ;)

Bloody hell, the skeet of the week is STILL there :]
I'm getting less fond of this 'weekly' award!

And if you couldn't tell, Cadavre was a geisha once, except a very bad one.

So you mentioned it eh? I blame the drugs I'm on then.

Just go in your profile and delete it. I've mentioned that in at least two threads. ;)

I was thinking we should call it Raskolnikov....or Pertrovitch?

Ivan Awfulitch  :D

ivan Ivankov

just type it into google :P

Actually Pho....if you are as well read as I was hoping, those were characters from a classic Russian work called Crime and Punishment.

Now that we can play as Doom without his helmet, how about skins of the zombie, shotgun guy, etc?

As for the Ranger/Q1Grunt idea, here's one.

Now if there was some way of getting Fritzkrieg in there ... (+set fs_basegame?)

We already had the Fritzkrieg discussion...the final outcome was no and the reason was copywrite infringment.

this is coming from you mcdeth  :blink:

but we CAN make a model that looks like Fritzkrieg from the ground up (this time with red and blue skins )

What do you mean "Coming from me?" I may be insane, but not dumb...

Insanity is in the eye of the beholder, as is stupidity...

I would also.  If possible, I'd be willing to 'attempt' to contribute to it.

isnt fritzkrieg a Q3:TA model?  :huh:

Ja.

Hence the "fs_basegame" idea, but nevermind.