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well without a proper explanation I'm free to speculate and from any obligation to be charitable

lot of younger hiper people working there now who might see the unreal series as a symbol of "toxic gamer bro culture" because of the inherent competitive nature of arena shooters and were pleased to bite their thumbs at "boomers" like us.

Well, I hope it was just a mistaken business move.  If it's what you mention above, they can kiss my finely feathered avian ass. 

I'm really loving the call of the machine levels. I never really got into the quake 2 campaign back in the day but these levels beefed up the action a lot and they look great. Really brings out the toxic gamer bro in me. Makes me want to eat Doritos and drink mountain dew and make fun of feminists on the internet.

well when i feel insulted i like to give some back personally

That's one of the most baseless and insulting things I've read in a while, Woodsman, and I read YouTube comments for amusement.

I think if Epic thought they could make a few bucks they wouldn't oppose the unreal remaster, but honestly i think when it comes to the unreal IP itself i think the slight is deliberate. They couldn't have thought shutting down the unreal servers would be taken as anything but an insult to the fans. I can only guess but i think they probably have a lot of younger hiper people working there now who might see the unreal series as a symbol of "toxic gamer bro culture" because of the inherent competitive nature of arena shooters and were pleased to bite their thumbs at "boomers" like us.

Oh, I agree there.  I feel the same way when it comes to paying for software and the whole "activation" and "license" stuff.  If someone pays money for software they shouldn't have to prove anything to be able to use it, and if it breaks, they should be able to do whatever the heck they want and need to make it work.  I've often wondered how many people have hoisted the Jolly Roger for an install of an operating system or other piece of software when they try to activate it and their license key is somehow blacklisted.  Is it their fault that happened?  But no, the customer is always guilty until proven innocent.  Ahh, I could rant about that and Right to Repair, but that would get too far



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So yes, I was referring to Epic having made that tweet, and yes, it's a case of "forget that, here's something shiny!"

To be clear, the tweet was claiming that Epic thinks nobody wants to play old games; that wasn't any more true coming from them in 2017 than it was it was when Sony said it in 2013 when people asked if the Playstation 4 would be able to play older Playstation systems' discs.

It is very likely a poorly thought out cover for only wanting the newest UE games to be on the market, though, you're correct about that. At this point I'd settle for a course change and them making the titles as-were available again, because while I'm an admitted supporter of various methods of circumventing a lack of availability 🏴‍☠️ especially when the corporate suits decide not to play ball 🏴‍☠️ that shouldn't be a thing people are required to engage in to play older games.

There was a tweet going around from someone a few days ago stating that multiple studios approached Epic about remastering Unreal back in 2017, and the response they all got was that they had no interest in re-releasing old games because nobody wants to play them.

Considering the overall reception for the remasters, the Halo Master Chief Collection, etc, that tweet has aged like expired milk in the desert sun.  Epic just wants to sell their new engine everywhere and went out of their way to kill their old IP's, and throw more crap into Fortnight.  Unless they see enough $$$ from what Nightdive is doing I doubt they'll want to do it.  From their perspective I imagine they see the Q1 and Q2 remasters as just a marketing hype push for a future Quake game, since we're talking the narrow-mindedness of corporate suits here.  Hopefully I'll be proven wrong and they'll decide the old UT needs some love, but I'm not going to hold my breath for that to change any time soon.

There was a tweet going around from someone a few days ago stating that multiple studios approached Epic about remastering Unreal back in 2017, and the response they all got was that they had no interest in re-releasing old games because nobody wants to play them. That tweet seems to have been deleted because I can't find it now, but whether or not anyone actually tried to do a remaster, it's currently impossible to purchase any part of the Unreal franchise anymore, so the "no interest in re-releasing old games" part certainly tracks.

I do agree, though, but given part of Nightdive's whole deal is a form of preservation by making these old games as widely available and easily playable as possible (because the average person doesn't want to deal with making source ports work, no matter how simple that process is, if they even know what a source port is in the first place), the inevitable demand of EGS exclusivity would likely be a dealbreaker for them.

Christ I'm good at writing long sentences that somehow aren't actually run-ons.