One of PlanetQuake's MOTW this week is one called Doomed2Frag. It's like a portion of GenArena in that it attempts to bring the Doom weapons and gameplay into Quake 3 Arena. And it largely fails. The weapon and item models look like crap, and the mod largely plays like garbage.

1) No fist, meaning no Berserk pickup.
2) The chainsaw is nothing more than a weakened, modified Gauntlet.
3) The shotguns move awkwardly, and generally don't do enough damage.
4) The rockets are too small.
5) The plasma rifle is weak and sounds like a hyperblaster.
6) The BFG fires too quickly and doesn't work at all right.

Compare this to GenArena's Doom Warriors class. Even that should make you more than happy with the work that has been and continues to be put into this mod.

It's no Generation's 'Doom class only' style... but it's not bad. The BFG was my biggest issue... I got 3 kills when I looked straight down. The chainsaw was pretty weak as well. The flamethrower was questionable to me... seeming overly odd

The spinning ammo and health boxes looked weird to me too.

It could use some polishing up, but it's decent. Won't be sticking around too long for me tho... since Gen fits the bill already, and then some.

After reading the readme... Vorlonesque is the is coder and designer... that names rings a bell for me. Wonder if it's the same one.. hehe.

having just downloaded it

I'm of 2 minds on this one

1. the weapons are very basic looking, however they are better than anything i could do
b. the action while still nice, is nothing like doom, doom 2 or even final doom
c. most of the weapons and movements felt odd
d. not once did the bots fight properly at nightmare level

2. as mods go it looks and plays well
b. it may not have the graphical and technical accuracy of gen, but it is another persons take on the doom style
c. the shotgun animations slay me, they are cool. even if a tad crude
d. I will always love a mod that has a flamethrower in it, due to my pyromanic tendancies  

I'm not going to pick on the mod, Vorlonesque did work with us for a while on some physics code and has always been decent toward Wirehead and Generations.  The models were done, I believe, by his brother who at the time knew very little about modeling according to what Vorlonesque told me.  Call this one of those "I really like Doom and I want to make something like Doom" projects just about everyone has done at some point.

However, the amount of enthusiasm that The Happy Friar is exuding here eludes me, especially when you look at the Beta 3 readme that references Quake III Arena version 1.29 and the site itself has not been updated since 2001.  Why the excitement toward a project that appears to be semi-abandoned, and why the criticism of Gen's filesize, especially when people crawl over each other to download 500+ meg game demos and trailers anymore?  He didn't even link to us in the article, which I find a tad insulting.  If you're going to criticize, offer up the material.  He's going to get a friendly email.

Grabbed this last night, funnily enough. It's OK, but I'll stick with genflags 29, thanks :rules:

Generations Mod has been in the works for a very, very long time too :]

Personally to me now day if you have Dial-Up and expect to meet the demands of today's online gaming world, your pretty cheap.