I don't think I ever took the time to get pass the level with the shrinking machine  <_<

I think we need Doom maps the most, followed by Wolfenstein and then Q2. We have almost all the Q1 DM maps at this point, but only 3 Q2  maps and only a couple Dooms and Wolfs.

I think one of the challenges Gen mappers will face is making the Earth/Wolf maps interesting. Even though we need more Wolf maps right now, personally, I'dd rather see more Q2 and Doom maps more just because the idea of maps that take place in the normal world doesn't seem too exciting. The one earth map we have so far (I forget the name now) is well done, but it doesn't seem to fit in with all the other maps and I'm not really motivated to play it. Also, of course, since the maping capabilities of the Wolf engine were pretty limited back then, there can't be too many remakes of the original maps, cause they're going to all look and feel pretty much the same. Sure, one or two dark, dank, Nazi prison levels will work, but after that it's going to get stale. The ration of themed-to-remake maps will probably be pretty high for the Wolf maps.

If we're going to have Earth maps, they can't just be your run of the mill WW2 maps that make some fool walk into your room and go "ooh, are you playing Medal of Honor?" They still have to be dark, strange, and unique. Rather than having a scenic european village with a couple holes blown in the walls, we need a scene of total chaos with the village engulfed in flames, smoky, dark skies, things exploding, burnt shit everywhere, etc. I also think typical, commonly recognized WW2 settings like occupied vilages and trenches should be avoided in an of themselves as much as possible. When I first saw Wolf 3D, I didn't know it was a WW2 game, all I knew was you were stuck in some kind of dark dungeon with rabid dogs and evil men with guns chasing you. Wolf wasn't a WW2 game, it was more like a survival/horror/action game which happened to have a WW2 setting.

At the same time, we don't want a bunch of typical Quake maps labeled as Wolfenstein maps either. I think with the Earth class maps there's the opportunity to have stuff like larger outdoor arenas with grass and trees, seperate distinct buildings, a generally more coherent setting, and other stuff which is more common of other games but are omited from Quake because of the environment, and still make the maps uniquely Quake.

I would really like to see space-based Wolf, Doom, Quake and Quake 2 maps... that are based on space levels...

Devlar's remake of e1m1 from Wolfenstein 3D was pretty nice. I think it could have been a lot of fun with some work.

Anyways, you don't have to use squares and such. I'm doing Hans' level and it has benefited greatly from the use of curves and abnormal effects

Remixes are good, but new maps with them would be even better. For people that like vertical maps snott a problem would be good. Imagine snott a problem from earth worm jim redone for quake3. The difference would be bounce pads instead of bungee cords and lava or slime instead of water with a space monster in it. Basiclly a deep canyon with liquid at the bottom and maybe a few caves in the cliff faces. When I think of BIG monsters I think of the boss of Serious Sam the first encounter, so big even Sam is impressed and says "you're a biggun aint'chya?" The help screens claim it's 300 feet tall.

I think for the most part  Wolf/Doom/Q1/Q2 space maps would be an oxymoron, atleast unless you thought of a good concept behind it. I could see a Doom space map taking place in a sort of dream-like hellish void (like someone mentioned earlier) but for the most part space maps are an environment unique to Q3 and making one for a different class would be the same as making a Slipgate map for Wolfenstein or something.

By the way, you could do a cool crossover map for Doom; Hell on Earth; an Earth city invaded by Doom monsters. It would work as a Earth and Doom map. I think it would only register as a being invaded by Doom monsters if you left some monster carcases lieing around, which probably would not be possible till resurgence was done.

Maping isn't that hard, it's just time consuming. I taught myself how to make Unreal maps over a weekend. I haven't tried making Quake maps yet, but it can't be all that different. If you think you have good ideas you should take a stab at it. Granted, even once you know the technical side to actually constructing the map, creating the map is still a learning process, complexifying your designs and ironing out every detail, but its just a matter of time. Using map editors is not that hard, it's just a matter of having a good concept for a map and taking the time and effort to execute it.

Vadertime: When you said sky maps and its description... it reminds me a map of UT 2003...

I'm still a bit low tech to see UT 2003 here, so what was that map like? Also, I'd like to see a "rooftop" map. One where every roof can be walked on and many of them close enough to jump from building to building.

Vadertime: I forgot the exact name of the map. But the building are so tall, that you can actually see lots of stars in the space, and when you look below, these tall buildings are like, standing above the earth. And it has of course gravity issues.  

Why not make a map, and it's only a round/box map, very small map, just enough for one-on-one, and the whole place place looks like, the place in "Gladiator" movie, where the players only fight to the death in one same place. But you could make it look like a space map, or maybe just another land map.