Had an eye-opener since my last post, which was posted shortly after I was appalled at the way Footman responded to my posts. The following was typed in a much clearer state of mind.
I'm sad to see you think I'm trying to insult you, I have no intention of doing so and (as I said before) the reason I'm actually giving feedback is because I DON'T dislike you in any way. Believe me, if I insult someone, it doesn't look anything like what you've seen above. I've typed a lengthy reaction to an anger/pain/frustration reaction of vadertime (and/or mojojojoe - my memory's not what it used to be) on these boards a while back. A lot of it is applicable to your outburst & the way you interpret my obviously too harsh crits. I do
not mean to compare you to either of them! 80% of that long post is just applicable to everyone (and to myself in particular).
And Pho: I like and appreciate your view on things, as always.
If one has guts, one must not be afraid to use them ;] - Also, ofcourse Footman responds to feedback according to his nature, I'm not trying to convert anyone. It is, however, hard to remain standing if this is the default response to feedback, and communities such as this one will probably have to endure something like this many times for everyone to realize it and act accordingly.
Critism leads to suggestions for improvement, and is based on what's wrong with the work in the eyes of the one dishing it out. I'm afraid I don't care much about which part feels good and what could be skipped, the two go together in my book and although no crit should ever be given with suggestions for improvement, no suggestion is made without a reason either.
The point is made, however, and I will refrain from offering feedback. The way it's served obviously doesn't achieve the effect I'm going for, it doesn't help anyone and therefore defies its purpose. I had no intention of either hurting Footman or starting this huge-ass rant/discussion that we now find ourselves in (even though it is educative).
Although I do not wish to alter the way I 'crit' work since it is the only way that feels right to me, I can refrain from posting it and keep it to myself as I have in the past. If anyone wants my opinion in the future, they may ask for it and accept the results
- That sounds like a fair enough deal to me. When I do give my opinion, it'll be harsh at times, but it's honest and truly what I think,
like it or not,
value it or not.
I happen to frequent boards where people post their work in order to get that kind of feedback, and obviously this is not the case on these forums. This, in retrospect, I could've already known by judging the reactions to my work.
My sincere apologies to Footman (and any or all that were also offended or demotivated). Foots, I really do mean it when I say I have nothing against you - we've been through that before, but the other way around