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« on: 2004-09-27, 04:54 »
Where exactly did they come from? I know that:

 

  • The Napalm Launcher is an adaptation of the Mac Flamethrower
  • The Mortar is a variation of the Mac Bazooka
  • The Sniper Rifle was created in GenArena as a long-range balancing asset


But where did the Dualgats come from? I know that they were in the original Gen, and subsequently SOG and GenArena. How did the dualgats idea come about, and why? Does it have something to do with the dualgat wielding bosses?

P.S. What made you decide to change the Bazooka into a mortar?
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« Reply #1 on: 2004-09-27, 05:26 »
Here's how I understand things.

The Dualgats are a homage to the dual-chaingun-wielding bosses of Wolfenstein 3D.

The Mortar Launcher came about for various reasons. Just bringing in the Bazooka would have been boring. "Just another rocket launcher." Various ideas were tossed around, one of which being to have the projectile accelerate as it flew, but engine limitations made it either impossible or more difficult to implement than it would have been worth. So the idea for an arcing projectile that falls over distance was born.
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« Reply #2 on: 2004-09-27, 14:20 »
Quote from: Makou
Here's how I understand things.

The Dualgats are a homage to the dual-chaingun-wielding bosses of Wolfenstein 3D.

The Mortar Launcher came about for various reasons. Just bringing in the Bazooka would have been boring. "Just another rocket launcher." Various ideas were tossed around, one of which being to have the projectile accelerate as it flew, but engine limitations made it either impossible or more difficult to implement than it would have been worth. So the idea for an arcing projectile that falls over distance was born.
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« Reply #3 on: 2004-09-27, 18:41 »
Actually, there's a pic of BJ wielding two gatling guns in the Wolf3D readme portion of the game.  I've also seen this screenshot where there's Wolf port with two gats.

As for the mortar, yes, there were technical problems with adding a new TR_TYPE for accelerating projectile calculation.  I know how to get around that now, but the weapon model is already kick-ass and changing the gun that radically at this point in the game would be counter-intuitive.
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« Reply #4 on: 2004-10-15, 04:39 »
I actually prefer the mortar...it adds a touch of something unique to the mod...moreso than an accelerating rocket would have done IMHO.
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« Reply #5 on: 2004-10-15, 05:18 »
I think the earth class is a fine example of how gen could have been achived legally in quake 3 even if the character models hadnt been included in the first place. More of a homage instead of a direct translation. (no this is not a push for gen for doom 3 so dont ask)
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« Reply #6 on: 2004-10-25, 21:11 »
Quote from: Makou
Here's how I understand things.

The Dualgats are a homage to the dual-chaingun-wielding bosses of Wolfenstein 3D.

The Mortar Launcher came about for various reasons. Just bringing in the Bazooka would have been boring. "Just another rocket launcher." Various ideas were tossed around, one of which being to have the projectile accelerate as it flew, but engine limitations made it either impossible or more difficult to implement than it would have been worth. So the idea for an arcing projectile that falls over distance was born.
The Dual Gats remind me of the dual-chaingun weapon (nicknamed the "boob gun") that was implemented in the Wolfenstein 3D mod The FInal Solution.
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« Reply #7 on: 2004-10-27, 06:51 »
Mostly it seems they're a way to give earthenstein a BFG. All the other classes have a powerful bfg equivalent from the original games. Has anybody ever tried to make animations for the poor old knife though?
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« Reply #8 on: 2004-10-27, 07:25 »
Slipgate - RTFM
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