There's not really a single top dog.

Tekhead, Phoenix, and myself are usually the top three.

Tekhead won the tourney at qcon
Pho's far and away the best Doom player
I usually win as Earth.

I'm a bit rusty now, though. I don't get to play very often.

And somehow, Tabun is always forgotten.

I've proved that I can make it amongst the top three often enough, and that is with five times the ping I've practiced for years with. So let's not make this a US only list, now shall we? :]

I'm getting a slight bit annoyed every time someone makes a senseless listing of 'best players'.
Not only have I seen some VERY good players on the Euro server (players that would kick the shit out of anyone I've seen on the US server in the past few years, we're talking guys who are probably among the top 10 dutch Q3-engine players - granted, not regulars), but until a proper LAN-based duel tournament is held, claims of top 3's are rather bold.

My poor starving artist's ego is within bounds, as you all know, but I do know that I'm pretty damned dangerous in Gen, on a good day.
(Anyone who needs 'proof' should look at one or two of my demos in the 99e demos thread, and realize that those are below average performances)

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And on a side note:

Railing is dependant on sensitivity in two ways: the usual speed vs precision is always the issue. High sensitivity settings mean you can rail someone standing right behind you quickly, whereas low values allow you to be accurate across great distances.
New mice that allow for use of 800 DPI and over will finally let you have it both ways, hence why I'm looking rather forward to what Razer is cooking up.. and hoping it won't be bollocks like the Boomslang was ;]

Then there's acceleration, which, in theory, allows you to combine speed & precision. For some it works (I believe Tekhead is one of those freaks of nature ), but I truly hate it and would advise anyone 0 acceleration for best results.

BUAAHAHAHAH   , Tabun, lighten up dude, I didn't mean to create a "senseless list" or an inflamatory thread,  but  rather  get a feeling as to whom I'm playing in the servers so I don't get discouraged when I'm trashed about.. We have the same exact problem in pkarena, except we have more euroservers and when we US players play in their servers,  we get a good arse kicking :-).

I DID get really impressed with Tek and his railgun, that's not ping or good connection,  I can't dream of railing two people in a row in one shot, much less ten, even in LAN playing. I've only watched a couple demos tho.

On the mouse thingy: I have the latest Razer viper, and it just wont agree with me at all, I went back to my logitech after a week. I used to play with the Boomy before and thought it was the awsomest mouse till  it died a year ago, then I switched to the optical logitech cause I was tired  of cleaning rollerballs.

I'm gonna try to play  gen tonight with some of my pkarena buddies, so please hop in if you see us and show us how is done :-)  or NOT

I'LL TAKE YEZ ALL ON!!!! :rules:

I'd probably lose, mind ...

Aww, come on - I gave you due recognition =]
(I think we posted about the same time though)


Acceleration to me gives the mouse and the crosshairs a more naturalistic feel. When you walk around, you aren't always at a constant speed but rather a variable one with areas of speeding up and slowing down. The same applies to wrist movement, in which a small wrist flick is not the equivilant of a fraction of a larger flick. Mouse accel smoothes out small and large movements to me, and I think they give the crosshairs a much more fluid feel. One important note though is that I do not use in-game mouse accel - not in UT2004 or Quake3 (Gen) - but rather I tweak the acceleration in the Logitech mouse control panel, which gives my crosshairs a universal feeling of movement which is quite conveniant, so I don't have to tweak my mouse as much cross-games =]
Edit: (Oh yeah - I use a Logitech MX310, which has been a terrific budget mouse to me)

Makou, unless what you've got in mind is a personal attack, go ahead and tell us why you don't feel that the Gen Tournament is insignificant. I'm interested to hear your opinion.

One regular player that I've noticed stepping up is BiGRoB85, who started out playing gen as mostly cannon fodder can now suprise me with his accuracy. He's definitely a contender in the pubs these days - no doubt about it. Now, if only he could resist the temptation of chatkilling, he'd probably be at the top of the scoreboard everytime

On an interesting note about Arena players.... ever notice that they're at the top usually while playing vq3 maps such as q3dm6 and q3dm13? That's my observation anyway - I think they just know their own game and how to play it better than most Gen players.

I'll take the price for best european railguncatcher for now  

Tek, are you ever going to stop picking on me about that?  

Guys, please don't give our already overly self-critical skinner a complex here.  Tab's up there in terms of ability, so don't leave him out of the picture.

Is there a "best" Generations Arena player?  YES.  Anyone who plays and loves the mod is tops in my book.  <3

I realize the real question here is "who trashes the servers routinely".  Tab, Tek, Con, and myself tend to do this the most often.  Tek is deadly with Slipgate, I'm nearly indestructible with the Doomguy, Con's a sneaky bastard with Earth, and Tab is completely evil with that Q2 railgun.  Those are what I would say our "best classes" are, and possibly who's the best with each class.  We've all topped the scoreboard at various times and those are the classes we tend to do it with the most often.  I've deliberately left out a "best Arena" player because, frankly, there's a lot of regular Q3 players and I wouldn't know where to start.

Look, I'm not out to win any prize money here or a right to say "I can beat anyone else at Gen."  I'm a casual gamer.  I play for fun.  I play maybe once a week, or twice a week at the most.  I'm also trying to put more time into Gen's continued development than actual gaming.  Being heavy into the design process I want to give everyone else a chance to play as well, so it balances out niceley - less game time = more development time.  Besides, it's no fun if the same people win on the servers every single time.  It gets discouraging to the other players.  Sure, I like to win games, we all do, but ask any of the regulars and they'll also tell you that I'll do my best to help a new player along as well.

Oh, and to those other "always win" wonder players we have, you might try playing at a lower handicap setting once in a while.  Besides giving the other players a fighting chance it makes the game MUCH more challenging.  

Good advice.  I (kind of) learned that the hard way...

Awsome, can't get to try that out. I'll  play in random class tonight.  I really dislike the Q2 guy, (nothing you guys did, just never liked Q2, wentt from Q1 -->  SoF ----> Blood II ---> Q3  cause I hated Q2) but somehow in the new gen version it seems a LOT more likeable.

EDIT. OOps was referring to Phos' , hadn't noticed Tabun's post