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« on: 2006-03-06, 00:54 »

OK, so today, of all days, decided to see some images of an anime that I enjoy to watch. Google'd both image search & site search, and BAM! PICS! *click* on some links, and then I find myself surrounded by lesbian hentai of 4th GRADE GIRLS!

What-the-spork?

I cannot express my anger. I WANT TO SHOUT! I WANT TO KILL THOSE PERVERT BASTARDS for indirect pedophily! I can't understand what makes a person like hentai. If you want p0rn, watch p0rn you freakin' morons!

Please apologize me if I have brought his subject up already, but I get sooooo pissed off when this happens, that I just have to throw this up.
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« Reply #1 on: 2006-03-06, 02:03 »

Ahh, the internet is one big friendly and safe place, is it not?[/sarcasm]  I'm sorry to hear that you ran into something like that, and your reaction is definitely understandable.  Now regarding hentai in general, some people just get off on animated pornography.  Everyone's turn-ons are different, it's a fact of human nature.  However, I don't see any legitimate reason why someone would depict juveniles.  The only reason for this is to skirt pedophilia laws by using animation since (obviously) no actual children are involved.  That I do have a problem with because it's only pedophiles who would find such a thing enticing.  Catering to the scum of the earth makes one even with the scum of the earth.

Just accept that these people are worthless lumps of flesh not even worth thinking about and move on.  Sooner or later they'll do something stupid enough to go to prison for.
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« Reply #2 on: 2006-03-06, 06:15 »

I don't have a link to the story, as it happened several months ago, but a man was arrested for downloading images -- specifically, artwork done in an "anime" style -- of underage girls. A rare case, but it shows that it's not quite a safe work-around.
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« Reply #3 on: 2006-03-06, 09:22 »

you really didnt know that till now ?!?
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« Reply #4 on: 2006-03-06, 10:33 »

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and then I find myself surrounded by lesbian hentai of 4th GRADE GIRLS!

This could be a bad assumption, but I have a strong feeling you're referring to Card Captor Sakura.  From what I've been told, there is a lot of lesbian and homosexual innuendo in that anime to begin with.

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I WANT TO SHOUT! I WANT TO KILL THOSE PERVERT BASTARDS for indirect pedophily

Add me to your list I guess...

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I can't understand what makes a person like hentai. If you want p0rn, watch p0rn you freakin' morons!

I watch both.

Here's why I like hentai more...

There are no STD's in hentai.
There is no pregnancy in hentai. (Unless you like hentai depicting pregnant women)
Everyone looks ideal.
Everyone achieves an orgasm at the same time.
Things happen in hentai that could not happen in real life currently.  (Sex with aliens, sex with anthropomorphic creatures, etc.)
Odd fetishes can be fully explored and sexual frustration can be vented (Vore (the eating of people), guro (death and mutilation,) rape, water sports and defecation, she-males, transexuals, futanari, beastility, furry, hairy, diapers, spanking, loli (under-age and child-like characters,) and shota (sex between adults and children.)
I don't have to treat real women as a masturbatory aid.

The list goes on...

Basically, I like hentai because it is an excellent way to reduce the stress in my life.  I treat it the exact same way I treat videogames whether they be of questionable content or not.

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Please apologize me if I have brought his subject up already, but I get sooooo pissed off when this happens, that I just have to throw this up.

Hey, it's understandable.  It can be a bit too easy to stumble upon pornography on the internet.  I will not tolerate being called a pedophile though.

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The only reason for this is to skirt pedophilia laws by using animation since (obviously) no actual children are involved.  That I do have a problem with because it's only pedophiles who would find such a thing enticing.

I am not a pedophile, and I do enjoy hentai that depicts under-age children.  I am especially fond of hentai that depicts older women having sex with under-age boys as that was always a fantasy of mine growing up.

It is disgusting that pedophiles exist, but I feel that a great deal of hentai depicting under-aged characters exists for entirely different reasons.  Oftentimes, such hentai exists simply because the artists were fans of the source material or fans of the character themselves.  What if's and sexual parodies and such... Why the hell would somebody create pornographic images of Rugrats and Hamtaro?  I have no damn clue.  Probably for the same reason people sing about incest and rape or why games like Grand Theft Auto are made...

It may not be right, but I certainly feel that it is not wrong.  There are probably couples out there who fantasize about what it would have been like to have sex when they were younger, kids who want to fantasize about people their own age, under-age girls who want to have sex with an older man... What kind of outlet is there for such fantasies? Hentai is the only one I can think of.  (Besides dressing up in rediculous costumes of course...)

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Just accept that these people are worthless lumps of flesh not even worth thinking about and move on.  Sooner or later they'll do something stupid enough to go to prison for

If you truly feel that way, then my little speal (sp?) won't change your mind of course, but I am not a pedophile.  Worthless?  Perhaps, but I have zero interest in sleeping with children.

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I don't have a link to the story, as it happened several months ago, but a man was arrested for downloading images -- specifically, artwork done in an "anime" style -- of underage girls. A rare case, but it shows that it's not quite a safe work-around.

If they were digitally-altered photos of real under-age girls, and he was a pedophile, then let the bastard burn.  If they were simply drawings, and he was a pedophile, then let the bastard burn.  If they were not, and they were simply drawings, and the man was truly not a pedophile, then I think the accusers should burn.
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« Reply #5 on: 2006-03-06, 12:42 »

Actually, I was not reffering to Cardcaptor Sakura. Besides, what happens in that anime is explained later in the series. I was reffering to Ojamajo Doremi. It is absolutely disgusting to see such perversion involving this anime. This anime has no sexual situations, yet some people decided to rape this demonstration of innocence that is this anime. I don't understand why would someone like hentai of this anime, but I do understand that it is for some irregular reason.

The only thing that can actually support hentai is that at least it might avoid real-life situations that are drawn in hentai. And that's it. And this is a very bad excuse. I cannot respect your position in this matter, for my point of view is different from yours. I think that being turned on by a fantasy as indecent as kids having sex w/ older people / people from the same age / people younger than them is absolutely incomprehensive.
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« Reply #6 on: 2006-03-06, 22:29 »

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I am not a pedophile, and I do enjoy hentai that depicts under-age children.
Ugh, you have to try to muddy the water don't you?  I like you, Kain, but this is something I'll not be able to understand.  I don't really care to try either.

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I am especially fond of hentai that depicts older women having sex with under-age boys as that was always a fantasy of mine growing up.
Which, in the real world, is landing teachers in jail right now.  I know it can be argued that blowing someone away in a video game is simulated murder, but I can't really see the similarity between offing zombies and watching the corruption of youth in animated form.  I still can't sanction that.

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Oftentimes, such hentai exists simply because the artists were fans of the source material or fans of the character themselves.  What if's and sexual parodies and such...
I'll take your word on that, but I would think making hentai about anything and everything under the sun (and some things that aren't) seems a bit... perverted?  I can understand if someone has an attraction toward a specific character, but I don't see why someone would want to turn every animated thing they're a fan of into a sex orgie except that they have a severe hormone imbalance.  Remember, I don't approve of sexual promiscuity in general, and I'm diametrically opposed to the culture that's spawned the rampant promiscuity and debauchery that exists today and is accepted as "normal", so my feelings will be heavily biased here.

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Probably for the same reason people sing about incest and rape or why games like Grand Theft Auto are made...
Because they can?  I don't like games like Grand Theft Auto either.  I despise Rockstar because it seems they can't make anything that's not "in the gutter" as far as sex and violence goes.  I invoke personal standards here, no apoligy for it either.  It may be legal, but I don't have to like it nor buy it.

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If you truly feel that way, then my little speal (sp?) won't change your mind of course, but I am not a pedophile.  Worthless?  Perhaps, but I have zero interest in sleeping with children.
Just for clarification, my thoughts for that specific instance were directed at the people who make the stuff.

I doubt I'll ever understand how someone can like hentai involving children and not be a pedophile at the same time, but if you say you have no interest in pedophilia I've not known you to be dishonest so I'll accept your word.  I doubt you'll find much understanding of your apetites among other people who do not share them, though I must admit, you have quite a bit of courage to express your inner thoughts on this in a public forum as such.  I can admire that at least.[/color]
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« Reply #7 on: 2006-03-07, 01:06 »

And with that, we've discussed everything we possibly could in this forum. Holy shit.

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« Reply #8 on: 2006-03-07, 07:55 »

Seriously, you are like some kind of crazy ghost Deth. You just show up every now and then, and talk to somebody, but none of their friends will believe them about it.
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« Reply #9 on: 2006-03-07, 08:58 »

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]Actually, I was not reffering to Cardcaptor Sakura. ... I was reffering to Ojamajo Doremi.

It was a bad assumption then (and a poor way to start an argument on my part.)  I'm sorry about that.  I looked up Ojamajo Doremi, and I can definitely understand how most people would be put off by seeing hentai involving the characters from the show.

Phoenix:  Thank you for acknowledging my point of view.  That was all I was shooting for.

There are a lot of different genres of hentai that I won't go near, but I  will defend their right to exist.  I am the same way with videogames.  Both have played such a strong role in my life that I feel threatened when they come under fire.  I am also not keen on going to prison. :p
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« Reply #10 on: 2006-03-07, 18:46 »

My view? (not that anyones asking, mind) if you don't hurt anyone, do as you like. (but does that include hurting yourself?)
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« Reply #11 on: 2006-03-07, 19:08 »

shamb , I share your opinion .
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« Reply #12 on: 2006-03-07, 19:17 »

People are burning down embassies over a bunch of cartoons - why would you worry about Hentai, of all things? I know it's not necessarily relevant, but it's just such a hipster thing to make a fuss about forms of 'art' these days. Some people make pictures of women getting 'roasted' like they're pigs. The women in question seem to enjoy it, and presumably there are people out there who like watching the pictures. Hentai is even easier, since it doesn't involve live subjects.
People are weird - let them have their little fantasies and quirks. The only alternative is a collective comatose state, or a huge outbreak of human blow-outs, this time where it matters.
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« Reply #13 on: 2006-03-07, 19:18 »

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and that is exactly why this country has been so great, because you have that choice, we all do. its called responsibility, and less and less people are taking it every day. its there because theres a market for it.  the sad thing is, pedophiles, etc.. generally DONT watch that kind of stuff. they usually appear to be normal, every day people. its 'assumed' that that kind of stuff is out there for 'pedos' but in all reality, they ones that ARE pedophiles, arent watching it.. theyre out being pedophiles... there is definately a fine line you skirt with this kind of stuff.  

as pho put it. dont like it. dont support it. but the fact is it will live until we either become some fascist nation run by soccer moms(gross exaggeration, probably under our current system this stuff could theoretically become illegal anyways with enough bitching from the general populous) or until there is no market for it and noone has the desire to view such things.

personally. i dont like it. but if it stops just 1 person that otherwise might act out such fantasies on some poor little kid? then id say its worth it for it to exist, doesnt mean i have to watch it.
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« Reply #14 on: 2006-03-08, 16:56 »

Tab:  I'm not calling for anyone to get their torches and pitchforks ready over some hentai, underage depictions or not.  We save those for the pedophiles who actually hurt real children.  Now if someone is not a pedophile and is getting off on hentai of underage people, like I said, I can't understand it, but as in Kain's case I'll take his word on it and that's enough for me.

I do draw the line at calling it "art", however, and yes this is a personal rant because, well, check the forum title.  Here's how I define this, since it tends to be a fine line sometimes since some art, historically, has included nudity.  We all know how some modern so-called "artists" just want to hide behind the term "art" to try to bring some kind of legitimacy to public exhebitions of anything sexually vulgar that, in any other context, would break public indecency laws. I take issue with that.  To me, an illustration, model, sculpture - whatever, that exists mainly for someone to get their sexual jollies is pornography.  Period, end of discussion.  A sculpture, painting, illustration, or model that may contain some nudity but is not created primarily for someone to get their sexual jollies is more likely to be art.  There are plenty of examples of each, and I don't really want to be explicit on this forum so I'll sum it up like this:  If Phoenix doesn't like it, and Phoenix doesn't want to see it, then Phoenix says it's not art.  Someone else might, but this old bird does not.

Also, I am neither condemning or condoning pornography here, that is not my intent, I'm just showing where I define each.
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« Reply #15 on: 2006-03-08, 22:46 »

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Seriously, you are like some kind of crazy ghost Deth. You just show up every now and then, and talk to somebody, but none of their friends will believe them about it.
 Slipgate - Off Topic  Well Washu, see it was like this. I got drunk and found myself in Moscow where I befriended (beknownst to me) the guy who made the spam bot that invaded the forums. Unfortunately, when I found out who he was I got really pissed off and started to scream very bad words about him and his family. I felt pretty decent about the entire ordeal when it occured to me his family were all ex-KGB agents whom could kill me with the nuclear heat vision. I was than oblidged to open up a can of whomp on all of them followed by what is referred to as a double-filp, stick kick. I owned them all. Then I had to swim the berring Straight and walked all the way back home. The first thing I did when I returned was look up controversy corner to see if I missed anything important. I did not. I hope that gets you back to speed, Washu, on where I've been. Slipgate - Off Topic
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« Reply #16 on: 2006-03-09, 03:15 »

Er... Um...

 Slipgate - RTFM

Or something...
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« Reply #17 on: 2006-03-11, 03:02 »

I'm a bit late in posting.. but I don't really have a problem with hentai. I do have a problem with kids in pornographic situations tho.. be them drawn or not. Just my view.. and I'm a heavily bias person. So, I avoid such things.

I'll stick with furry art. Thumbs up!
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« Reply #18 on: 2006-03-11, 04:05 »

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Furry art, or furry hentai?  Slipgate - Laugh
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« Reply #19 on: 2006-03-11, 07:46 »

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Furry art, or furry hentai?  Slipgate - Laugh
Wait... There's a difference? Slipgate - Exhausted

But really isn't hentai just anime porn and furry stuff called either "furry porn" or "yiff work"?
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