its in the admin section of that board.

Sorry, you are not permitted to view this forum... <-that error

Check the main page for files/weaps/textures.

Browse through OoPpEe's files.

http://www.custom-tfc.co.uk/index.php?sect...y=OoPpEe&page=9

Check Page 1, 5, 9, 10....

they also ripped things from ut2003:chaos (the golden skull ,not very old )
and things from halflife .

I think we should have to stop them .

This is a typical case of a huge community of newbies (in EVERY aspect) that have no clue about .. well.. about basically anything. One dork posts something he's ripped, and the rest ooh's-and-aah's about how wonderful said dork is.
I never like it when stuff is ripped, but what REALLY smarts, is when someone rips one of your models and proceeds to make it look horrendously ugly! blegh.

Oh well, at least he'll never get a job in the industry ;]

Yeah, and tons of stuff from other games and various authors. Funny how Games Keeper and Tabun commented on some of the Wirehead models on that page, because really, I wouldn't know where to start. It's an endless list of ripped models. Somebody should point Id Software to that site, so it can be removed all at once.

Removed all from me (double check, if there is any missed tell me the link and it will be removed).

Also about the first link, the mod moved it to the admin forum. I just deleted that also.

now now GK.... dont go flying off the handle. No flaming is needed

He removed them when asked, no hassle involved

good work removing those, and fast. But taking media from one engine and moving it to another is a very big nono. You might want to remove that torch before Fox Interactive finds it as well. They're VERY protective of the Aliens and Predator franchise.

well i can pretty much ASSURE you, that at least 90% of the 'modified' stuff original owners would NOT give permission to do such a thing, because of legal reasons that basically come down to, If they did it once, they open themselves up for many future rippings...

I/We Can assure you, from FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE, that id, Fox, and Sierra do NOT take kindly to their models being used AT ALL, because they DO NOT give permission for such use... EVER......

Add-on:

You do not think that we would go about making OUR mod without knowing/following the copyright laws to the letter? Please. We have been in contact with the original content creators, the publishers, etc etc etc, as well as many legal experts... Trust me.. if theres ANY TEAM out there that knows about copyright laws... it's us.

Mr. UbEr, sir, I'd suggest you take a few laws courses on copyrights and intellectual property.

This site is little more than a demonstration of gross negligence towards the intellectual property of others.  The majority of "content" available at this site was not originally created by the website staff or the person who uploaded it.  It is overwhelmingly converted, hacked, and modified from other games, and other people's intellectual property.

Speak what  you will of talent, the skills required to edit someone else's work are miniscule to what it takes to create it in the first place.  And as a personal rule of etiquette, the greater percentage of the original work that remains at the end (and for these files, that is the overwhelming majority), the more credit should be given to the ORIGINAL author(s) and NOT the editor.

I do model and skin edits too.  Have for years.  But I carefully document where my source files come from, give full credit to those who created them (far more than I trumpet my own work), and most of all, NEVER DISTRIBUTE what I have created without EXPLICIT permission from the original author.

Now, you can attempt to take a moral high ground by claiming you don't check with the authors, that you assume they have permission.  I suggest you read up on the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, as your rights and responsibilities are slightly different than you percieve.  (I handle user-uploaded content similar to this on a daily basis as part of my job.)

With copyrighted material and intellectual property, if you intend to run your site the way you are (i.e. largely populated with copyright infringements) you MUST have a disclaimer to the following:  That you do not pre-screen files uploaded to the site, that you fully comply with the DMCA, and that you have a clearly-stated process to respond to copyright violations like this one.

It also helps to not tell a copyright holder that they're "stupid."

I won't even get into trademark infringement, as the differences in laws would most likely be confusing at this point.  Suffice it to say that you do NOT have any form of "I didn't know" protection for trademarks, and you must actively remove other people's tradmarks from your site, not passively wait for others to request them.

I don't take kindly to being insulted over a legitimate complaint.  We have had honest requests from teams wishing to use our content for authorized purposes, and since our project is not yet completed, we simply cannot allow this at this time.  We want people to look at these models and think, "Cool, WireHead made some nice Generations weapons," not, "Cool, WireHead borrowed those kickass weapons from Custom-TFC."

If you insist on deriding this for our complaints, I'll be more than happy to forward the link for your site to other copyright holders (id Software, Fox Interactive, etc.) who historically have not responded as politely as we have.