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http://abcnews.go.com/sections/GMA/US/GMA0...ft_murders.htmlWhy do we still allow people to claim this?! In written statements, the boys expressed remorse for their actions.
"I will always hate myself for what I did. I am so sorry," wrote William Buckner.
"I didn't want to hurt anyone," wrote Joshua Buckner. "This will be with me the rest of my life."
The Hamel family hired attorney Jack Thompson and filed suit Thursday against TAKE2interactive, the video game maker. Thompson says it's time to send a message to the video game makers. This just pisses me off to no end! This is part of the reason game prices go up! This is the reason I get an ID check when buying certain games! Where the f@ck are the parents at?! F@cking lazy bastards out to make money on the blood their own kids caused! Take responsibility on you own actions people! Quit pointing the bloody finger elsewhere!
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If you feel like writing, send it to news stations, newspapers, Tech TV, and any other Media company! This is the letter I am sending.
You can change it around if you want to but you can also just copy and paste.
Dear, (Insert Name)
I am writing you on behalf of the players of the video game community, players who don?t run out and shoot people driving home from work. Yes, I will acknowledge that there are some things in the video games that are inappropriate for young kids, but on the outside of EVERY game there is a rating and a suggested age of the player. And at every game retailer there is a poster telling parents about what the ratings mean.
So when some kid goes out and shoots at random people and the victims sue Rockstar, Take-Two, or Rockstar North for making the games, you have to wonder where were the parents, and why aren?t THEY being held responsible? Along with the parents, the kids should also share the blame, because nowhere in the game does is tell you that ?killing is good or that you should go out and try this.?
And yes, maybe this kid cannot tell what is right to do and what is wrong to do, so yet again, where were the parents?? If you know that your kid has a hard time telling what to do and what not to do, wouldn?t you think that a big M on the game for a Mature rating, and the explanation of why it got that rating, for let?s say, ?Blood, Animated Violence, and Suggestive Themes,? should set off a red flag saying , maybe you shouldn?t get this game for your little Jimmy. And that?s another point; the parents have to be around to buy Mature games for kids under 17. Whenever I go in to the local store to buy games, the person in the store always says ?You realize that there is violence and gore in this game?? So there is no excuse for the parents claiming to not know what was in the game when they bought it.
I am an avid player of the entire GTA series. Yet here I am politely responding to something that I find offensive. I am not running around taking my differences out on people. I can tell what is right from wrong, and my parents know this so they will allow me to get these games. It basically comes down to personal responsibility and accountability, for government, corporations, and individuals.
Sincerely,
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I agree on that, overall. Then again, as you know, my faith in general parenting these days is 0. If you're going to copy & paste the above, correct the one typo that caught my eye: because nowhere in the game does is tell you that
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Someone got mad at me once and bit me. Can I sue the makers of Pac-Man? Greatest quotes ever! these stupid little b*stards need to be hung by the neck until dead, dead, dead. that much is cut and dried.
but then there this lawsuit crap:
RE:Family members of those killed in video game-related shooting sprees say it is time to take Grand Theft Auto off the market, before more lives are lost.
the particular families jumping on this lawsuit bandwagon have forfieted any sympathy they might have had coming for their losses what so-ever. call me a cynic but it's pretty blatant that they're just trying to cash in on their loved one's deaths in whatever way they can, under the guise of false grief. cash, pure and simple. Yeah, the little ratbag perps are scum, but these bottom feeding, oppurtunistic, maggots aren't much better. Quotes taking from another board sum it up. |
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I'd have to agree with Lil on this one. It's not time to send a message to video game companies, they KNOW the games are violent. It's time to send a message to the parents who think that their kids can be properly raised by a television.
Any child I have ever seen go through something along the lines of hunter's safety will most likely NEVER do anything of the sort because we are taught exactly how powerful these firearms are. If they're going to go after video games, how about we start going after movies, who portray REAL PEOPLE in these scenarios. I would imagine this would blur the line between fantasy and reality more than a video game. It's along the lines of saying "ah dun cracked muh frien's head right open a'cuz ah sawed that bugs bunny man do et."
Take a step back and look at this, it isn't parents offended at games, it's parents shocked by what they've found their children to be capable of when they didn't bother to put in the time to teach them better. This wasn't an outlet for rage caused by a video game, this was a couple of idiot teens going on a shooting spree because they were never taught what the consequences could be. This is NOT simply parents and family members grieving, these are people who have been misled in their grief to believe that it was the fault of video games. There is no attempt to find out why the kids went so far as to think this is acceptable behaviour. There is simply blame being cast, passing the buck to the most convenient scapegoat.
Because, after all, it's not your fault.
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I would think we would be used to this by now. The rising price of games has nothing to do with this mumbo jumbo and really the price of games hasent gone up in a half decade anyway.
Frankly i think any parent that allows thier kids to play grand theft auto vice city or various other games that use shock value and violence to sell copys at a young impressionable age is filth. When i was growing up my parents didnt let me play mortal kombat but i lived street fighter 2 was better anyway. You should be I.Ded lil because they shouldnt be selling these games to minors.More importanty PARENTS SHOULDNT BE BUYING THE GAMES FOR THEM!!!
That said the idea that video games have had anything to do with violent behavior amoung young kids these days is bullshit. People like to ignore the fact that much of pop culture amoung the youngest generation today is centered around gang life and drug abuse.
Its very simple really every bad event needs a scapegoat and if a proper one cant be found one is made up. its easier for parents to blame games than themselfs so they do it.
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If you believed the news and the "anti" crowd:
Guns cause violence
Video games cause violence
Movies cause violence
Single-parent homes cause violence
Religion causes violence
Books cause violence
TV causes violence
What's the one thing missing in all this? How about PEOPLE. PEOPLE CAUSE VIOLENCE. It works like this:
1) Person decides he/she does not like some person or group of people
2) Person decides he/she wishes to cause said person(s) harm
And the critical part
3) Person chooses to act in a manner that causes harm
Everything is bunk until you hit option 3. It is that CHOICE that separates the average angry ticked off "had a bad day" person from a killer. It is the individual, regardless of what bad stuff has been dumped on them or whatever, that ultimately comes to the point to make that conscious decision to act. Can we all agree that a gun does nothing until someone squeazes the trigger, and that a knife does nothing until a hand wields it in anger? Everyone gets angry, and even angry enough to want somone dead. That's natural. Self-control restrains anger until it can pass, and a good sense of action and consequence also allows logic to say "Killing someone is bad because you spend life in jail, where you get ass-raped on a daily basis." Kids have lost that sense of consequence because parents no longer teach it, having lost it themselves.
While it may be as simple as I've stated above, the problem with all of this is, and always has been, politics. As long as victims and crimes can be used for political gain there will be convenient scapegoats. Let's blame everything except who's actually done the deed. If you want to get rid of guns and games it makes sense to shift the blame, right? But then, politics is all about pointing fingers. Just turn on the news, you can see it every day.
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dont forget forums cause violence .
I have to say , I played gta3 from start till the end , no true over the top violence in it .
and I even play real gta3 , wich has even stronger weapons and that way more dead and blood on the ground then normal .
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Everyone has an excuse for their actions, it's pathetic. If games affect you, don't play them. Game companies are protected by free speech. Draw the line between reality and games holy shit some people are retarded.
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some people think beer causes violence but it just makes me nicer. it must be a lie. on a unrelated not id like to state that i luv you guys....BUUURRPP!!!
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I hate people.
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Beer? I'm down.
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Pho, you musn't forget "pornography" from your list. Everyone knows it turns males into sexual predators who commit violent acts against women. :unsure:
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Actually Kain, it's the fact that men are born male that's blamed for it.
We're expected to be chauvanist pigs, and if we aren't, we're "just hiding it well." Go go bastardized feminism.
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"Who says a chainsaw isn't a ranged weapon?"
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Hey now. I see pornography as just another one of those things. What you do on your own time, as long as it's not hurting others, is your own business. Granted, I don't watch porn, but it's not due to me being female and hating men who do. I just choose not to. And I don't expect any of you to be chauvanistic. If you are, that's your own problem. But most of you aren't, so what's the problem again ? I assure you, if this were the case, I wouldn't be hanging around these parts on the net. =P
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Everyone knows it turns males into sexual predators who commit violent acts against women. Pron is so not the reason why I ... Never mind. |
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