TEK: I guess I should've mentioned, this is just the .bsp and bot file, you NEED the d2grosse map posted earlier that has all the custom textures and models stuff in the pk3. It's like a patch.

The layout is similar to the real D2map32 level, I just shortened it and made it taller., and the item placement resembles the real map too, including the stockpile ammo :-) which I actually cut by at least half, that's where all the ammo was to overstock to kill that big horned beast.

The grappling hook is necessary for pkarena, this map is also painkeeped you just don't see the stuff except the grappling hook, but since we're fine in pk with the last version, and this one is being optimized for gen, I'll take it off..

The columns are set on crush if you get caught on the edges, you can't make it a flat crush cause that would make the items underneath dissappear, I had it set to high damage but the stupid bots kept getting crushed lots and lots of times and it annoyed me, now it just takes some health away.

Tabun: You can downplay what you've done all you want, you still my HERO :-) no way in hell I can get anywhere near that accuracy even if I make the bots in the stupiedest setting.

I'm revising this puppy and cutting down item placement a lot, this generations mods is REALLY REAALY tough to balance :-) but worth it, lots of fun.

I sure will try that, it ain't gonna look much like Grosse when I'm done :=)  I hope I dont get blasted for that hehhh.

OK, here it goes, the new slim, shorter, weaponless grosse beta.

http://www.flu.stonks.com/gengrosse_beta5.zip

:-)  The character of the map seemed to have been destroyed since day 1, just not DM friendly at all. I still have all the other betas, I could un-destroy it, but I don't think is gonna get any better, it's just a big box, it was fun playing DOOM back in the days, just not very Q3 friendly.