Perhaps, perhaps not.  Seeing as how Lee has all but disappeared, only to
reappear breifly every so often, to remind of us his presence.  Currently,
I am upset how things have been handled lately, with the introduction of a
new idler on the IRC server, we all know who she is and who she is with.  

<@LeeMon> YOU ALL NEED TO GROW UP.  ISIS INCLUDED.

One reply while I stuck around, sadly, this issue has been growing, an
guess what....NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE.

My problem? If you pretty much made yourself vanish an disappear, STAY
GONE, dont come back an be all pissed off and try to stop something you
obviously have not been paying attention to or have ignored.  More then one
of us LOYAL Wireheaders, has become pissed off, an yet NOT A THING HAS BEEN
DONE.  Why? Because they are affraid of pissing off the one person who is
SUPPOSEDLY, in charge of this team, who has pretty much vanished.

Though, it doesnt make it right what some have done in retaliation, but  
ISIS should have been stopped in the begining as is normal procedure, for
all except this one, who was warned many times about certain things.  I did
not see any thing done about it, till "LeeMon" decided to make his voice
heard, well guess what?  I DONT CARE LEE, you stopped being a member of
this team when you vanished.  Sure other obligations aside, we all have
these, as I know, but rarely, few an far between have you made your
presence known, "Hows it coming guys?, Great work!.", you know what I mean.

Go back  to where you have been keeping yourself or come back, but as it is
currently I don't need you, an I am sure there are others who think the
same.

As it is, I really do not need the hastle of someone returning an seizing control when
they have all but vanished.

Angst pretty much said it all, but you know what, spork off.

If it weren't for the founders, we wouldn't be here as fans. Give them due respect, since they know what they're talking about. I have a great about of respect for LeeMon, even in his absence. He's preoccupied with getting by day to day, just like most all of the rest of us. The founders' creativity has lasted this long, so why insult and mock them? Show some respect, fool.

Also, speak for yourself about your statement about dissapearing. Your'e supposed to be sporking gone, what are you still doing here trolling the wirehead forum? Piss off.

told ya he would be back next week .

but he has a point there lee , you should show yourself a bit more in here .
come over here and rand about some stuff , I almost forgot how some of your rants looked like .

My problem, as another summed it up is that Lee's never around, except when he pops in and seeks to assert an authority that many people around here feel Lee should no longer wield. I personally wish Lee would be around more, or pass the 'team leader' thing on to another and take a lesser position in the team.

As for you Tekhead, an others who happen to read only a portion of my first post, get lost as I am not the only one that feels this way, if I did not respect half the team members and what this mod is, I certainly, would not be pissed off.

As for getting by, day by day, sigh, I really...hmm i can fit it into my schedule I think, I do try to be here...but to what point? For A leader that has all but abondoned us?  I dont care to hear, 'some of us are getting by, day by day'.  Its a poor excuse I wont even use.

My point has been made.

Allright. To be fair, I'll reassess the initial post.


You're seriously the pot calling the kettle black. How can you be so judging on something which you have openly committed to as well? I stopped at this point last night because it makes the rest of your argument void.


That's a fairly valid statement. Care to back that up with a few sources?

Also, it's foolhardy to assume that just because someone is in a position of power (on the internet especially! And I quote: "LOLZ!!!!!!!1!11one") that they'll strike you down just because of a difference of opinion. That is... as long as your statement has merit to it.


...Honestly, I have no idea what's going on here. Please fill me in?


I'm fairly sure that you are in no posistion to determine who is a "true" Wirehead team member, seeing as you are not one yourself. As for the "Hows it coming guys?, Great work!.", what is wrong with the occasional praisal? I'm a bit lost.


Now that comes off sounding outright selfish. None of us are around just to hold up your standard.

Last but not least, if you do not like how things are going, leave. Try not to mistake this for a personal attack, but you are coming off as a whining child who is not getting their way. If you do not like something, then do something about it - it is a waste of time to linger and pout.

Just a quick note in regard to the various comments about Lee having "all but disappeared"...

PISS OFF

Just because you do not see him in the channel does not mean he has "disappeared", or especially that he has stopped working on/with the team.  There is a lot that goes on that the majority of you cannot see, and being his roommate, I can tell you he's been doing a lot more than 90+% of you can see.

In lieu of this, I respectfully ask you... TO STFU.  Thank you.

to me, the whole situation is water under the bridge. my saying is "have it your way" ... you can let problems be solved or let them persist, I don't give a shit anymore.

I just can't believe Azz made this thread. it looks more like something I'd make. heh

When one posts a flame, in public, one is generally opening himself for reactions. If Azz was out to start a constructive and insightful discussion of the facts, then this first post is very definately not the way to go about it.

1. The thread was posted in the wrong forum (yes, that adds a little to the shin-kick-factor)
2. This is a private team matter, and there's no reason to publicly and directly assault a (or in fact, any) member or colleague here.
3. Furthermore, this is a known 'problem' which has been adressed and slumbers in status-quo.
4. Apparantly something as whimsical as a relatively kind request to stop battering a #wh visitor can flare this up, and I don't think that's justified.
5. Lilazz had just, only hours before, posted a quite bold message wherein he declared total apathy towards Wirehead and it's projects.

 I don't condone posts which openly flame, whether it be in return, en masse or just another form of trolling, but I guess it can't be helped. If you mistook my post for a flame, stop 'getting a life' for just a second, and really read it, for it was clearly a direct response and reference to his own Weapons of Mass Apathy.

Your second comment is bollocks, and I sure hope you know it.
I was about to type a retort about this kind of mindless insult, but I guess I'll just have to accept the fact that there will always be some form of ignorance to be annoyed by, so instead I'll follow your wonderful advice, and go out and get some work done.