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Gen is hectic, so like I and Pho said, FF is cool for up to 3v3 tdm. In CTF it's always a mess unless you're playing with trained teams.
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I find FF better for team games, it means all the people who would usually shoot rockets aimlessly have to think a little bit more.
saying that though i must have roasted most people on saturday, when i was earth, so sorry guys.
but really FF makes for a more tactical game, and personally i think it would be cool to have most TDM and CTF games with it on.
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I don't. Friendly fire is fine in a game like CS, where almost everything is hitscan.
But in Gen, rockets have giant blast radii, grenades bounce everywhere, BFGs can clear a room, and the hitscan weapons do hundreds of points of damage in seconds.
No. Friendly fire is dumb in Gen unless it's a small, small game. In which case it's meerly annoying.
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Depending on the game style, I love FF... mostly in a CTF environment where a teamkill could be especially hurtful. Makes one think more when he wants to send out a BFG ball... unless it's one of those punks that don't care.. in which case he'll actually hurt his team more. But then my opinions don't mean much because I haven't played Gen in about........... wow.. I don't even remember. Pretty sad.. maybe I'll dust it off and try to get some of the already crappy aim back.   <----even after all this time away, I'm STILL rockin'! |
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New particle effects are already planned. .gif)
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  I fly into the night, on wings of fire burning bright...
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I don't know what Washu is smoking, but lightning in Q1 (GLQuake) surely does NOT produce orange blood. Any perception to this effect is due to the yellow coloration of the screen blending with normal red blood.
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Maybe not, Assamite, but new particle effects -- ones that match better to the original games -- are still planned.  |
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If you see a "Rona Altana" out there on the internet somewhere, that's probably me
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I don't know what Washu is smoking, but lightning in Q1 (GLQuake) surely does NOT produce orange blood. Any perception to this effect is due to the yellow coloration of the screen blending with normal red blood. I beg to differ:case TE_BLOOD: // bullets hitting body
cnt = MSG_ReadByte ();
pos[0] = MSG_ReadCoord ();
pos[1] = MSG_ReadCoord ();
pos[2] = MSG_ReadCoord ();
R_RunParticleEffect (pos, vec3_origin, 73, 20*cnt);
break;
case TE_LIGHTNINGBLOOD: // lightning hitting body
pos[0] = MSG_ReadCoord ();
pos[1] = MSG_ReadCoord ();
pos[2] = MSG_ReadCoord ();
R_RunParticleEffect (pos, vec3_origin, 225, 50);
break;
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void R_RunParticleEffect (vec3_t org, vec3_t dir, int color, int count)
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I fly into the night, on wings of fire burning bright...
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Wow. I suppose there's an explanation for that aside from "we thought it'd be cool," but... wow.
Is there a different blood splatter color for nails hitting a body, too? Or are those just considered bullets?
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pic one looks SLIGHTLY orange. Both two and three look red.
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No. Friendly fire is dumb in Gen unless it's a small, small game. In which case it's meerly annoying. How about reverse friendly fire, where shooting your Teammates damages you instead of them?  |
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Tabun
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That would work if the blame for teamkills lay totally on the shooter's side. Which it does not. Ever lined up for that perfect rail, only to have your teammate jump in between at the last second?
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pic one looks SLIGHTLY orange. Both two and three look red.
True, but there is a definate difference if you compare two and three closely, you'll see that one is more orange then the other. Also there is a separate set of code lines for a "TE_LIGHTNINGBLOOD" parameter. |
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Assamite
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I don't know Q1 color values, but we can definitely say they are... different. Not exactly "orange", since for all we know it's STILL the yellow coloration. NVM - I cross-referenced blood made by lighnting on a monster with my own blood with its attacks on me. Different color, even despite the colored screen. Lightning blood is orange. I stand corrected. |
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As far as i rember of my ol q1 days the lightning blood was orange. and i doubt this is very  |
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Thomas Mink
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It was still red.. but it was a 'orangish red'. Not really a huge issue if you ask me..
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Well, BAT has finally tried to update from 99e. It won't install, and gives him an error message. He's using windows 2000, and 99e works fine, as does everything else. I can't remember what the message said (sorry) but is this a know issue?
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