Anyone who follows politics and actually knows what they are talking about knew this was a crock. I think alot of people knew it was a crock too it was just politically convenient for then to claim the evil republicans were conspiring to bring back the draft. (its a good way to get ignorant but idealistic youthes to vote democrat)

Well the problem is a lot of people DON'T follow up on stuff they hear.    While you and I have known full well this bill would die in the House, all they hear is "They're bringing back the Draft!" from their friends, or via some email chainletter, and they get all panic stricken and angry.  Besides the college students and other younglings, think of all the "Soccer Moms" out there who get and send chainletters, worrying about their kids getting plucked up and shipped off overseas, and you can see how this sort of thing snowballs.

shambler:  I AM a weapon of mass destruction!  Fear me!  :rules:

The real problem, I think, is that a lot of people don't follow up on stuff they hear, unless it's about
<political group/race/brand/nationality>. It's a one-sided deal usually. Pope-lovers will believe
M. Jackson is the devil, but they'll never believe someone accusing the pope to be senile. The sad part is that even though this is a very logical and common thing, hardly anyone admits their guilt.

So, just for a change (and to give this thread some varying content), I will stand up for common sense once more. If it was a nation, and had a flag, I would have been waving it here, or something proud and ceremonial like that.


I, C. Zimmerman, AKA A. Tabun, am biased and automatically doubt everything that opposes the convictions that have lodged/wedged in my brain and daily patterns of thought. I promise to keep fighting against it, and to keep an open mind and shall eventually free myself from the shackles of single-mindedness, ignorance and bias, or die trying.


There. I've said it. Guilty as charged.

Hehe, well oh dear, you got me! :]
I'll assume the point, which is valid, understood - even in the light of this grammar-1on1.

Btw, don't mistake this for sincere melodrama, I just like to 'rant' in style every once and again. But then again, whatever could I say to convince anyone, eh?  It'd be like trying to convince Makou that I actually did chatkill him by accident :]

Thanks for stressing my point, Woods :]

Understood - come to think of it, the first word that pops in mind when reading 'rant' is 'Lee' :]

The Pope is a senile old vegetable.

Woah. I can't believe someone in here just tried to justify the use of nuclear weaponry and insult the pope.

Pick one of the two, they don't go well together

And Pho, the big difference (I hope, anyway!), is that Woolie won't be making futile attempts to remain respectable as a religious leader, whilst being driven around in bulletproof  pope-mobiles.
An admirable attempt though, very much so indeed.

Religion is a weapon of mass destruction

Atheism, yes, perhaps. But there's no way it'd work for Agnostics. If it would, they wouldn't be, simple as that.

P.S. I did not make any comment about the pope's presumed senility, but weak and old goes without saying. Nor do I care much for the reasons why he uses the mobile, my point was merely that it is hard to take the good man seriously this way.

P.P.S. See, Woolie? Woodsman shows one can either agree on only one, or none of those statements  ;]