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The ankh for Q1 regen is an awesome idea and fits extremely well with the theme, as previously stated... I can also see the lightning rune fitting in, but it would have to be textured right.... which I'm SURE you can easily accomplish.
As for flight... I must agree with Tek. But I also can't think of anything Slippy could use for flight at all. A Scrag symbol?
If all else fails though, I'd go with Con and the others... the single-wing rune.
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As it looks, the Ankh and Haste are in. Haste needing some model work, and indeed, an appropriate texture to work. For now I'm going with the single wing-like rune. Remember, flight is one of those things some people aren't even ever going to see ;] - If it looks acceptable, it's good enough for me, for a change.
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is the ring gonna be used for the inviso power item!?  |
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Ehr yes. The Ring of Shadows will remain the Ring of Shadows :]
I was under the impression we already had a Ring model, but I'm not sure about that. If not, that is about the easiest item to whip up. Perhaps with a slight wink to Lord of the Rings, plus a whole lot of metallic shader should do the trick nicely.
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no more, no less please =]
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Sure, why not. It'll be a simplified version, because I'm not going to spend a full day modelling pretty snakes that no-one will ever see close up, for more than a millisecond ;]
But the jist is good. Intuitive, symbolic, perhaps a bit hard to rune-ize, but I'll find a way.
A final note: Mercury is definately a fag, there. :]
Besli: We're not talking items here. If you know the mod, you must realize that all items are in, except for the powerups - hence this thread ;]
Whether you like shards or no, they're a part of Quake 3 Arena, and stripping them, just because Wolf3D didn't have them, is a definite no-no. Balance first, extreme nostalgia later. Using treasure-bonus-like-items for powerups has been suggested earlier in the thread, and is seriously being considered.
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How about that Idea of funky blast-from-the-past tech? Because you could probably use a mixture of both, where one makes more sense than the other For example, if haste could either be a time machine or a golden stopwatch, the watch would no doubt be more recognisable in its purpose (just as examples, mind). The battle suit could be a cross of protection, which would make some sense, or you could go nuts and build an updated version of the original Robo-Hitler suit, complete with a transparent helmet to stick the players headmodel in  .... Unless you dont like the inconsistency of course, but I dont think it would matter much. I think it would be hillarious watching that crudely animated suit running and jumping around with dual gats  |
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Don't count on that suit just yet. Although the idea is kind of funny, it would also imply that the player would lose a lot of his/her mobility. Either that, or it would just look.. wrong. The idea is noted, but for now at least, it'll probably be the spear of destiny. Best and clearest reference to the Wolf3D/SOD legend ;]
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The "Hitlerbot" is not going to be a powerup. However, that could be very feasible for an Earth Soldiers player model once external player model support is added and a proper SDK written so the upcoming new player stances can be properly added. Earth Soldiers are the only class more heavily armored than Strogg Troopers, so it does kind of fit. I guess TankJr would have some old-school competition to contend with? 
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Well, I've done something for Earth:  A simple & clean Spear of Destiny, that could glow moodily. I'm thinking of using the cross, very much with the same design of the Wolf3D version, for Regeneration. I'm still drawing a blank for the others, although I haven't given it much thought. Perhaps the Chalice could work for Haste.. |
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Great work Tabun, Love the models and the skins for these items. It will really give Gen a nice fresh feel, well done.
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hehehe , yea . its funny
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Hmm, yeah, it DOES look a bit like the gat, maybe a solid pedestal holding the shaft with a pseudo-volumetric light coming from where the shaft meets the pedestal? As for the other powerups, I figure I can quote myself  Some slight modifications, but ideas I had were as follows: Chalice - Regen
Cross - Flight
Crown - Invis
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It could even have (red) sloshing contents, that chalice. Although ofcourse, the actual effect of a jewelry encrusted version of the cup has effects that I would not describe as 'regenerative' as such. Not if we are indeed talking the Last Crusade :]
A Crown for invis might just work.. perhaps with a translucent head under it?
No suggestions for haste? To be honest, I see no reason why the chalice and the cross both couldn't be:
- Haste
- Flight
- Invis, or
- Regeneration
Since they don't actually have clearly defined meanings per se.
Either way, that still leaves one powerup unassigned. I don't think the shroud thing would work, as a model, although the idea is nice enough.
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I think the spear looks fine... it might look a bit like a gat, but hey... I didn't notice until someone else said it. I think a skin would fix that anyway.
As for the last item... might as well keep with the 'trasure' theme. A sceptre maybe... or just a fancy looking, bejewled coin... again, I'm just lobbing ideas out there. So whatever.. heh.
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Spear for Invuln
Chalace for Regen (red jewels, red liquid?)
Cross for Haste? (hey, it's gold)
Crown for Invis? (with appropriate ghost effect)
I still say a scepter with wings (ala Heretic Phoenix Rod) would work for flight just fine. Give it a purple eye jewel and maybe some purple jewels on the handle. I have a good idea what this might look like, so if you want I can whip up a sketch. Sure, we're making that one up, and yes I'm being a little egocentric here, but I don't think a treasure chest really translates and that's all that's left.
I don't think the scepter would look right as purple, nor should the chalace be completely red. I think sticking with gold treasures and color-coding the effects and jewels is a bit more reasonable for keeping them looking treasure-ish. What we could do as opposed to or in addition to coloring the jewels is use a voobing shader that gives a color-coded glow effect, so it pulsates with the color shell. I think that could look very nifty and unique and make the "treasures" appear to be a bit more magical in nature.
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