GK you sound like a danish politician I know
He once said that we should send then home with a plane and throw them out with a parachute and then if their life was as terrifying as they claimed they didn't have to pull the string.

I can only write about how it is in Denmark, it's not good. First off they come here and they just want to live a peaceful life here, they are very willing to work to make a living, as they are in no way used to getting anything for free at home. Do we allow them to work? No we don't, we slowly get them used to recieving wellfare checks without doing anything for it.
Ohh but we're not done yet, if you have a name that sounds like you might not be of Danish origin it's pretty hard to get a job when you finally get permission to have one, and as if that was not enough a lot of people complain about them not working for a living.
Hypocrisy? NOOOooo
That said, I don't see any reason that we should be incapable of hypocricy on other major aspects of politics.


Call me a hippie but alienating certain groups of people never really helped integration did it?
Hating people for the color of their skin or for their names never really helped either, again you can call me a hippie.

As for extreme solutions I think it's tempting to offer those who want to fight so badly that they can have an arena where they can fight real life TDM, hell I don't even think it would be hard to find sponsors, especially not if that could buy them the tv rights.

Say what you like but Isreal would likely not even exist today if some europeans hadnt tried to exterminate thier own jews in WWII while the rest of europe watched largely indiffrent untill they themselves were attacked. ( of course we too are guilty of the latter )
 on a secondary note id like to say if you have watched the news in the last few months you would have noticed the number of suicide bombings in Isreal has dropped a significant amount.similar fences have also proved very effective . If that means they have to grab a little  palestinian land ( and its NOT thier land ) then ill live regardless of what old europe thinks.

Yes they did. Seconded all the way.

BTW it IS Palestinian land. Any "Israeli" land was provided by the US and Britain after WW2.

I only call people hippies when they insist on loving people who have every intention of destroying and/or using them for all they're worth.

As for the topic at hand, I don't like buffer zones, but the Israelies don't have much of a choice in the matter. Saying the US and Britain had no right to create Israel in the first place IS a valid statement, but do consider the recent history in that case.

This isn't something you can easily say you're for or against if you have any idea what this is all about.

The Israelies get bombed, so they kill protesters, so they get bombed. It's a vicious cycle, and frankly, the Jews have a relatively solid chain of command. If they're told to stop, they do; you can't exactly say the same for ali boom-boom.

What a strange view of the world you seem to have. It was not like that at all. After WW1 the UK (not england) had very little in the way of equipment. We had run down the armed forces cos of the cost, believing they would not be needed again. We needed time to rebiuld. when we were ready, we got stuck in. until then the UK played for time. you must have seen the films showing all the wooden and cardboard tanks and planes made so the Germans could photograph them from the air. You think we did that just for fun?

This is just a spam post im trying to get my number of posts to 500.

oh , you wanna set them on fire .

now tell me , you know what a blitzkrieg is ?
then tell me and then say to yourself hmm , maybe it aint that simple to get to the tank .

about the jewish . they actually have no right at all on israel .
it belongs to the palestians now and they should get over it .

Belgium belongs to the moroccans now Gameskeeper . you have no claim on it. you should just get over it.

The "palestinians" are mostly immigrants from  Jordan , egypt and lebbanon. There has never been a palestinian state.  The Palestinians have less claim on the land than the Israelis do. The fact is both groups could live side by side with one another but the palestinians simply cant stomach the idea of living along side jews. Europe of course being no big fan of jews ( the fact that ANYTHING israel does gets an instant comdemnation from europe is not a freaking coincidence )  naturally sides with the palestinians.  Let the Israelis build there wall its already shown to be at least somewhat effective and less people have been dying on both sides.